So your problem with Maduro’s government is that is corrupt, and which Venezuelan or any other government hasn’t been corrupt?
Chavez and Maduro 's crimes are summarized by taking back the stolen resources (oil) that was handed to US/EU oil cos. Whether the people saw a benefit from this or not you must be in Venezuela now and before Chavez to realize the difference. Hardly anyone disputed that for the bottom third of the population Chavez was a saint that treated them like humans instead of slaves. And that is what the US/EU governing officials and the oil company media are jumping up and down about. They want their oil back.
Isolating them from markets to sell oil, to purchase equipment for drilling and refining oil, has had its economic effects. They have too much oil and nowhere to sell it to, and when they do they can’t buy anything from international markets as they are blocked by US/EU. BRICS has been the only alternative but half of BRICS don’t even need oil.
99% of the most vicious military dictatorships in Americas were sponsored, supported, and held up by the US as part of their anti-communist activity. Suddenly they are all concerned about Venezuela’s quality of democracy.
The largest Spanish speaking media outfits in the Americas are owned subsidiaries of US media corporations, do you really expect people to have an educated views of who to vote for?
My problem with Maduro’s government is exactly that they’re corrupt, and haven’t benefited venexuelans at all. Chavez government was, at the beginning, beneficial, then it defaulted to corruption. The only difference is who’s stealing the money.
I’m a venezuelan and have lived there most of my life. I remember watching Chavez reprehend Diosdado Cabello for being corrupt, but as of now he’s one of the people with most power in Venezuela.
A lot of the times people don’t have an educated view because they din’t have resources to know the impact each candidate could have, as venezuelans are very poor, and in many cases don’t have even internet connection, or let alone a phone.
So yes, I’m concerned about democracy in Venezuela, because regardless of the influence the US may have, we’re still in a corrupt dictatorship.
Democracy has not existed ever, it is a pseudo name for a facade of industrialists and bankers by controlling all media to pretend to allow people to choose “cheap” representatives. The US is so perverse it legalized corruption, called lobbying. Washington DC quadrupled in population in a couple of decades due to lobbying. They decide, you are just convinced your representatives decided.
And it is only called democracy as long as there is 0% chance of capitalism being overthrown. 100% capitalist democracy with high percentage of tax-base going into anti-communism subversion and war.
Either you are naive or you are a propaganda bot spilling doubt on a non-issue.
If Maduro had given 90% control of oil extraction and sales to US oil companies he would have been granted the Nobel/Oscar price for democracy.
Now that is corruption! Everywhere else but Venezuela
The quantities of oil Venezuelans sleep on top is what makes oil an issue, not the US economy. The US economy is heavily developed and influenced by oil interests.
You have anti-capitalist parties running in elections in Venezuela, do you know of one in the US?
I didn’t know that being naive in politics is an insult, many people discussing politics are. But if you think there can be a capitalist government without corruption then “naive” is the mildest characteristic one can throw at you. Was Bolivar naive for turning against the Spanish imperialists?
You said you are “from” Vz I never said a thing about the US as being associated with it. You can be Chilean and I can be from Nicaragua, and we would still be talking about the US when discussing politics.
I can be from Vietnam and you would be from Eritrea, still the US is something we would discuss.
So your problem with Maduro’s government is that is corrupt, and which Venezuelan or any other government hasn’t been corrupt? Chavez and Maduro 's crimes are summarized by taking back the stolen resources (oil) that was handed to US/EU oil cos. Whether the people saw a benefit from this or not you must be in Venezuela now and before Chavez to realize the difference. Hardly anyone disputed that for the bottom third of the population Chavez was a saint that treated them like humans instead of slaves. And that is what the US/EU governing officials and the oil company media are jumping up and down about. They want their oil back. Isolating them from markets to sell oil, to purchase equipment for drilling and refining oil, has had its economic effects. They have too much oil and nowhere to sell it to, and when they do they can’t buy anything from international markets as they are blocked by US/EU. BRICS has been the only alternative but half of BRICS don’t even need oil.
99% of the most vicious military dictatorships in Americas were sponsored, supported, and held up by the US as part of their anti-communist activity. Suddenly they are all concerned about Venezuela’s quality of democracy. The largest Spanish speaking media outfits in the Americas are owned subsidiaries of US media corporations, do you really expect people to have an educated views of who to vote for?
My problem with Maduro’s government is exactly that they’re corrupt, and haven’t benefited venexuelans at all. Chavez government was, at the beginning, beneficial, then it defaulted to corruption. The only difference is who’s stealing the money.
I’m a venezuelan and have lived there most of my life. I remember watching Chavez reprehend Diosdado Cabello for being corrupt, but as of now he’s one of the people with most power in Venezuela.
A lot of the times people don’t have an educated view because they din’t have resources to know the impact each candidate could have, as venezuelans are very poor, and in many cases don’t have even internet connection, or let alone a phone.
So yes, I’m concerned about democracy in Venezuela, because regardless of the influence the US may have, we’re still in a corrupt dictatorship.
There is no capitalism without corruption
Democracy has not existed ever, it is a pseudo name for a facade of industrialists and bankers by controlling all media to pretend to allow people to choose “cheap” representatives. The US is so perverse it legalized corruption, called lobbying. Washington DC quadrupled in population in a couple of decades due to lobbying. They decide, you are just convinced your representatives decided.
And it is only called democracy as long as there is 0% chance of capitalism being overthrown. 100% capitalist democracy with high percentage of tax-base going into anti-communism subversion and war.
Either you are naive or you are a propaganda bot spilling doubt on a non-issue. If Maduro had given 90% control of oil extraction and sales to US oil companies he would have been granted the Nobel/Oscar price for democracy.
Now that is corruption! Everywhere else but Venezuela
I get that you have anger issues or something, but I would really appreciate it if you stopped insulting me.
Maybe it’s a non-issue for you, but it isn’t for me, it’s my country.
Also the election system you have in the US isn’t the same there is in the rest of the world.
I’m not even talking about the oil, because there’s issues beyond the ones that affect the US economy.
The quantities of oil Venezuelans sleep on top is what makes oil an issue, not the US economy. The US economy is heavily developed and influenced by oil interests.
You have anti-capitalist parties running in elections in Venezuela, do you know of one in the US?
I didn’t know that being naive in politics is an insult, many people discussing politics are. But if you think there can be a capitalist government without corruption then “naive” is the mildest characteristic one can throw at you. Was Bolivar naive for turning against the Spanish imperialists?
You said you are “from” Vz I never said a thing about the US as being associated with it. You can be Chilean and I can be from Nicaragua, and we would still be talking about the US when discussing politics.
I can be from Vietnam and you would be from Eritrea, still the US is something we would discuss.
There can never be capitalism without corruption, it is the nature of the system, so get over it and find a valid rational argument