The Thai government has called for the release of all remaining citizens being held in Gaza. So far at least 33 Thai nationals have been killed, according to figures shared by Thai authorities with CNN – with 18 Thai nationals still being held hostage as of October 26.

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    I’m pretty sure that’s not true. Hamas has already tried that path, but Israel is out for blood. Netenyahu’s position is that the incursion should proceed even though it’ll kill hostages.

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          I’m pretty well informed in the area, but willing to learn. Can you please link to information about any time since it’s inception that Hamas has offered peaceful relations with Israel?

          Israel has made peace with Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, Qatar, UAE, etc, often in exchange for Israel giving up land.

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            Can you please link to information about any time since it’s inception that Hamas has offered peaceful relations with Israel?

            Well not really peaceful relations, but there were two ceasefires, one in 2008 and another in 2012, that Hamas followed in good faith until it was clear that Israel had no intention of doing that (the 2012 one they kept for more than a year). Both included Israel completely lifting the blockade, which they didn’t do no matter how long Hamas waited.

            BTW Hamas is uh… Hamas, but they changed their charter in 2017 to only demand a return to 1967 borders.

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              The 2017 Hamas charter reads:

              Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras al-Naqurah [Lebanon] in the north to Umm al-Rashrash [Eilat] in the south, is an integral territorial unit… Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. …There shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the Zionist entity. …At the heart of these lies armed resistance.

              Which is nonetheless an improvement over the founding charter:

              Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims will kill them until the Jews hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and the stone or tree would say: “Muslim, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.”

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                There’s also this in the same document:

                Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.

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      Why wouldn’t Israel be out for blood? America glassed entire countries when provoked, why did anyone think or expect Israel to just take the Oct 7 attack and shrug it off/not react? Fuck Hamas and their “peace attempts” after murdering festival goers and families.

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        America has never glassed any entire country, they’ve used exactly 2 nuclear bombs on one country and it was two cities, not the whole county.

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          Yeah but they way people talk about the USA online you would think they systematically genocided a whole race or glassed a country or something. And it’s not euphemisms. People write that shit as if they believed it sincerely

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        America glassed entire countries when provoked,

        And did it work? You’re implying the war on terror was anything more than a disaster.

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          I’m saying it’s funny you want Israel to take an attack without reaction, after you’ve reaped the benefits of colonizing and fucking up entire natiions. Imagine if after 9/11, the Taliban had said “we want peace now”, would you or any other American have accepted their peace overture?

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            Yeah I would since the Taliban had jack shit to do with 9/11. Bombing and invading them for 20 years accomplished absolutely nothing. The US isn’t any safer and Afghanistan is worse off.

            It’s actually a stupid question when you think about it. Would I save thousands of lives on both sides that were needlessly wasted? Yeah, I would. But you just want blood so you don’t give a fuck about hearing reason.

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            I’m from Egypt, so my country was on the other side of colonialism, but that’s irrelevant either way.

            Imagine if after 9/11, the Taliban had said “we want peace now”, would you or any other American have accepted their peace overture?

            The Taliban didn’t do 9/11, but that aside 9/11 and this attack are fundamentally different. A closer comparison would be terror attacks against Britain during the Troubles.

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        Fuck Israel for occupying Palestinian lands and bombing and killing innocent men, women and many many many children.