On this server we are often victim of this stuff, i hope we can all improve

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    But shit is really bad, and at the end of all things might makes right. Principles and philosophy don’t matter if you’re dead.

    Not necessarily. There have been some successful non-violent revolutions in history, and there’s a strong case to be made that not exhausting those options could be a huge mistake.

    We still have, right now, completely un-used tools at our disposal, such as unionizing en masse and deploying a general strike, which is insanely powerful (capable of bringing a nation to its knees if done widely enough), while being far less dangerous and more appealing to the general populace than any other means.

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      Well said. From my outsider perspective a general strike is ideal for the situation in the US rn. The benefits of a general strike are

      1. you can force politicians to pass things they wpuldn’t have the initiative to pass themselves (like universal healthcare), as long as you have a manifesto that’s surgically precise (eg. with pre-prepared drafts of laws) and you refuse to cease until that manifesto has been passed as law verbatim.

      2. it’s still fully constitutional. On paper, the politicians came up with these ideas and passed them out of their own volition.

      3. the unity & platform created by a general strike would create very good conditions for a 3rd party to have an actual chance of winning seats.

      All you need is some philanthropist who will create a massive strike fund.

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        Relying on a philanthropist is risky, and possibly unviable if the scale is large enough. Most strike funds are created and maintained using union dues, which would scale up to any size. The unfortunate part is that it generally takes time to fill them, and we’re a bit short on that.

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          True, relying on a single donor would make the strike too vulnerable to their influence, much like political parties

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      To be clear, I support other options like a general strike and unionizing (though I think forming a union is only a bandaid on top of the evils of capitalism, it’s better than nothing).

      I don’t think “just vote for the democrats in 4 years” is a viable strategy on its own.

      But even so, these have to be backed by might. If you do a strike and they send police to do violence to you, you have to be ready to fight back.

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        I see the workplace benefits of a global union (specifically the IWW) as a bonus, with the real meat being that it teaches people how to organize, and how much power they truly can wield collectively, as many people still feel quite powerless despite the potential they hold, they need only be taught how to use it.

        When the Spanish Civil War kicked off, it was the Syndicalist unions (CNT-FAI) that were able to organize their communities effectively to resist Franco and transform Catalonia when the existing government crumbled. That type of organization doesn’t necessarily have to be from a union, but I feel the ability to engage in a general strike would be far more encouraged if people were in a union and became used to flexing that muscle (and build up a strike fund to be able to sustain it) and would drastically help in effectively resisting.

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          This is a good point. I hadn’t thought much about how some of the skills and such from unionizing might transfer to other things. Thanks