If my tone sounds shy, it is. I originally went on hiatus but came back just to mention what I noticed, because I am LGBT too. Please read until the end, it ends with what appears to be someone’s death. Trigger warning for what’s about to come.

There’s someone who has been duking it out with a famous mod (ShinigamiOokamiRyuu) on here for a while. They themselves aren’t famous and have a long name that’s hard to type, so they are best introduced by showing their latest message.

When I say “latest”, I’m thinking of the fact they have had maybe a dozen removed messages because they dox who they don’t like, because they call for crusading (or witch hunting or whatever the children these days call it), or because the person who removes them sees right through them (don’t look at me, I can’t read admin minds). I was able to track down an example of this, which shows admins aren’t buying the hunts, and another example where the subject and a mod from another place strike a deal only for the members to downvote even the mods in large numbers because they were imbued with fury by the OP. There is clearly an attempt to be negotiable, yet everyone is revolting because of what a newbie said (notice none of the people going after her ever operate simultaneously, more on that in a moment)?

Another famous fediverse member, Drag, made a point in this community to share the story of someone who had their whole identity doxxed. Most people agreed it was excessive to dox them. And in another instance, everyone was told a story about how the admins stepped in to prevent Nick Fuentes from being doxxed, because the rules are the rules. So I know I’m not simply being the pacifist here by saying doxxing is a big deal and that it’s weird when everyone reveals they follow some kind of exceptionalism.

One observation I should note here is that, while I noticed the claimer(s) use screenshots (the same few in fact) and maybe a handful of links, ShinigamiOokamiRyuu takes a note out of Rousseau and operates by making it so the interactions of her and her associates make a rabbit hole whenever possible. I take this to indicate she wants to be concise or she wants us to look into it with our own eyes, implying in a way that she does see herself as correct in her actions (she has never been all “here, here” like her opponents so far).

I originally was skeptical about ShinigamiOokamiRyuu. When asked about accusations of transphobia, it turned me off to hear them say “I apologized, and the person forgave me”. It sounds awfully convenient. And the other stuff sounded justified in accusing her of things. She seems destructively antinomianist. However, I noticed her try to take a completely diplomatic approach when the person making claims about her offered to talk to someone who was depressed. The person who was attacking her could have answered the call to be diplomatic, but they didn’t respond, and someone else ended up intercepting, because honor among thieves I guess. As they referenced different things, my innocent mind thought “well, let’s get this rabbit hole over with, they’re probably not innocent”, only to see something that disturbs me. It seems the people who accused her of having made transphobic remarks years ago decided to be transphobic themselves in the present day when the person she was once transphobic to (before she herself realized she wasn’t cisgender I guess) stood up for her and questioned why they allied with his (the transgender person’s) BF who couldn’t bear the thought that he was transgender. This then turned into censorship and attacks on the transgender person, and you can see him going through an existential crisis. As someone who has seen shit, I worry these are his last words.

That made me think… here I am questioning someone who did something dastardly but says she redeemed herself (which would be a given if she’s not cisgender) and who constantly sounds like she has a controversial crisis of opinions but who I have never seen disrespectful, all in favor of people who it seems just murdered someone right before our eyes, all because they wanted ShinigamiOokamiRyuu to suffer as much as possible and weren’t outside joining forces with actual transphobes. Is this what we’re fighting for?

I also did some digging on Davel, the person who is trying to fuel the issue in the first thing I shared and who has a history of not liking ShinigamiOokamiRyuu because she is as noteworthy as him with opposing views, and lo and behold, he too is against the LGBT, and ironically makes that clear if you actually go back to the first instance of him banning ShinigamiOokamiRyuu, who got banned for remarking how counter-intuitive it is for Democrats to cater to both the LGBT and the LGBT-phobic Islamic community at the same time, with Davel banning her upon her implying the LGBT should be prioritized, making his “support” he lends in the first message I show ironic in the same way it’s ironic when the other claimants “support” transgender people when they get to accuse someone they don’t like of transphobia. I am led to believe, therefore, that Davel, who also was caught doxxing her too before trying to make himself look like he is fixing it, is not an ally, nor are the many claimants. Which hurts because there are a lot of claimants and thus a lot of people who you would’ve thought would stepped in. I don’t know what’s going on, but the devil I know is better than the devil I don’t, especially when the devil I know has improved and is willing to reason even if some say she’s not good at it.

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    1 hour ago

    Being real? This particular drama is a dead horse. At this point, I’m down voting any branch of it as being no longer right for the community, due to it having been done to death.

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    You write an awful hell of a lot like Call Me does.

    Which is not a good look for someone defending a serial sock puppeter.

    But it doesn’t matter. No one is going to read this to try and parse what the hell you’re talking about. Where the fuck did you get the word “antinomianist?”

    Tomorrow after I wake up (stayed up all night to watch the eclipse) I’m going to come back to this. If no one else sees the similarity I’ll be shocked. Big damn paragraphs, weird words… you collaborating with the others on your messages, too?

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      6 hours ago

      Not a single sentence you just said reflects something that’s not normal.

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        5 hours ago

        “A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.”

        ~ Mark Twain

        Lies are improvised. Truth is prepared. I did my best with the latter.

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          “I didn’t have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead.”

          ~ Mark Twain

          If it takes longer to write the truth, then it’s telling you took the quicker approach.

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            2 hours ago

            “Your letter was too long, it must be lies.”

            “I had a lot to say, it was hard to make it short.”

            “Your letter is too short, it must be lies.”

            “???”

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            4 hours ago

            You’re the first person to imply I did that.

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      7 hours ago

      Reading it concerns those who the feud concerns. Is there any action you took due to the feud, or any judgment you made based on it? Whoever that describes should read it.

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    7 hours ago

    Seems like Leni, Davel and Jaaaane are all alive and posting, not sure who you think is dead?
    I think those living the drama enjoy it and thrive from it, seeing as they haven’t just created a new account where they would be free from it.

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      7 hours ago

      They aren’t the ones who are dead. Jane exposed proof of Leni making a transphobic-esque remark years ago towards someone who calls themselves Eridan. Jump to two years later and Leni’s accusers have pushed Eridan to harming himself. They triggered that because Eridan stood up for Leni. Because all Leni’s accusers want is for the end of Leni, as in they don’t actually care. When you see Jane try to defend trans people, she doesn’t actually care. She’s doing it just to get back at Leni.