Germany’s centre-Right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party and the centre-Left Social Democrats (SPD), which are holding coalition talks, have proposed a law that will block people with multiple extremism convictions from standing in elections.

https://archive.ph/yNQwE

  • Realitätsverlust@lemmy.zip
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    The big issue with any form of attempted suppression will not suddenly sway their voters. It would be much smarter to not give people a reason to fall for populists.

    But that would be too easy, I guess.

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      But that would be too easy, I guess.

      It’s absolutely not easy at all. Afd acts like a cult, getting people de-radicalized will take a lot of effort. And some politics that emphasizes societal solidarity and education about democracy, culture, etc.; instead we have gonservatives gutting funding for all of these topics.

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      Nope, if the AfD gets banned, the entire structure and funding crumbles. It will take decades to build up this kind of Nazi momentum.

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        First of all, no, that’s wrong. The AfD got to where they are in 12 years, and that was from 0 - do you really think it would take them another 10 years to get to the point where they are now?

        Second of all, it STILL would not convince the people that the AfD is wrong and they would just fall for the next right-wing populist party. So even if it would work, it would only be a temporary solution to a major issue.

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          First of all, no. They won’t exist and can’t establish anything similar if the party gets forbidden. They won’t be able to do shit.

          Second of all, there is no next right wing populist party like that.

          That’s the whole reason to ban a party.

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            Tbf, if you remember, the Afd started out as a party critical to European integration and the Euro in particular. They were right of Merkel’s CDU and they were dumb but they were not fascist. But very, very quickly, they were infiltrated in various ways by people and funds who were previously entangled with the NPD (now “Heimat”).

            And there definitely are a bunch of other right-wing parties that ex-Afd people could hop onto: Werteunion, Bündnis Deutschland, yada. It’s reasonable to ask how quickly this process would be. The real solution is actually teaching democracy and living democracy, from a young age and with the chance to actually have a real impact.

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              At the very least, it’d buy us more time to educate the masses. But I’m not optimistic that this will work. Social media needs to die first for that and that’s not likely to happen. Tossing some lies around via bots funded by Russia is so, so much easier than refuting said claims with facts. People have no interest in spending time and effort to do research. Plus the short format content being pushed everywhere completely destroys people’s capability to focus on anything that take more than 20 seconds.

              Banning the AfD will also make sure that the same people can’t work together anymore. They’ll have a very hard time building up something like this again. At least in the foreseeable future.

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                At the very least, it’d buy us more time

                That it will.

                to educate the masses. But I’m not optimistic that this will work. Social media needs to die first for that and that’s not likely to happen.

                I am less pessimistic. But I do think ownership structure of social media needs to change.

                Banning the AfD will also make sure that the same people can’t work together anymore.

                Legally? Like forcing people to find new circles of friends? I can’t quite imagine that.

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      It’s like banning marijuana and then expecting people to just not do it.