What about Biden is bad exactly? Yeah, he’s old. Yeah, he has the exact same position on Israel as literally every US president since its inception. But what about Biden makes him not “good” in your eyes?
I support Biden not because he’s an anti-Trump, but because he’s a genuinely good man who gets things done. He knows how to work the system and gets results.
I support Biden not because he’s an anti-Trump, but because he’s a genuinely good man who gets things done. He knows how to work the system and gets results.
As do I. The problem this time around though will be the number of younger independent and third party runners that might end up pulling votes from the “Biden is too old” crowd.
And unfortunately, every vote not for Biden is a vote for Trump.
Let’s cut out the middleman and go straight to direct voting.
Although a president is one of the few positions that I think a country could actually use, even with direct voting. Just for diplomatic relations, cause we can’t all talk to the world leaders at once.
Biden makes some very poor policy choices. He also championed the bill that made it so you couldn’t default on student loan debt. He also conceded the suspension of student loan repayment and got virtually nothing for it.
I am 100% voting for Biden next November and anyone who doesn’t is a god damn idiot but I am never going to pretend Biden is the right pill for america.
Edit: But look at this you guys. We are fucking arguing about Biden in a thread about how the media sucks at portraying Trump for what he is. This is the exact false equivalent the media keeps pushing.
We are asking ourselves why Churchill sucks when Hitler is on the rise.
The crime bill was a bad move, but you’d have to also be angry at the congressional black caucus, local POC leaders etc, and I never hear anyone complain about them.
The question was specifically about why they don’t like Biden. I’m sure they don’t like Trump either, seeing as they called Biden a right-wing scumbag. They answered the question and you people are still like “but Trump!”
If you can’t criticize the things you agree with, they will never improve. If you like something, you should be harder on it than things you don’t like.
It’s generally a bad idea to criticize someone for positions they no longer have and that they now argue against. It’s not really fair to say Biden sucks because of a policy he supported decades ago and no longer does. People should be allowed to change.
Even more, people should be ENCOURAGED to change. One thing that most politicians lack is the ability to reassess a position, and come to the conclusion that they were wrong.
If you blame someone for changing their mind on a position, you just encourage them to dig their heels in deeper and not be open to new information and ideas.
I don’t really agree. We can critique someone on a policy they may have changed position on if they continue to participate in politics and that policy still stands. Until they have an active hand in reversing what they imposed or step away from the job because they admit they are unfit, they don’t get the benefit of the doubt.
Actions speak louder than words sort of thinking here, which I’m inclined to believe.
At the very least, politicians who have changed their stances on issues they voted or worked towards in the past should make reversing those changes part of their agenda. Shows good faith, and is beholden to other branches of the government at that point.
Very often a policy can persist despite someone changing their views on it. Biden is President, he’s not in Congress anymore. The things he can do to effect changes that reflect his own changing views are different now. An example is his changing views on abortions over the last 18 years. In 2006, he stated he believed in limiting abortions, today he’s doing everything possible to protect access but as President, there’s not much he can do about Supreme Court decision and House/states controlled by Republicans. His views changed, but the political landscape makes actually accomplishing broader change near-impossible. That can’t be on him.
I fundamentally disagree with you. Who should it be on? If we held our politicians accountable maybe they wouldn’t have a strangle hold on our government. He has a choice. He can admit fault and resign.
Sometimes? Every US election in my life time was a choice of the lesser evil.
Now that the Republicans run a literal fascist who’s endangering democracy with project 2025 and his promises to imprison his political enemies, the Democrats could even run war criminal W and you’d have to vote for him because any vote not for Bush would be for Trump.
The question was specifically about why they don’t like Biden. I’m sure they don’t like Trump either, seeing as they called Biden a right-wing scumbag. They answered the question and you people are still like “but Trump!”
If you can’t criticize the things you agree with, they will never improve. If you like something, you should be harder on it than things you don’t like.
Sorry for the confusion. I do agree with what he says (in fact, I’m the one that upvoted his comment from -5 to -4), I mean, since you’ve got to choose from two “bad” candidates, I’m pointing out that Trump will still not be an option, given that Biden is not really good a president.
I’ll enjoy continuing to watch your country turn to shit from a distance while I enjoy my communist universal healthcare system, you know the thing Biden continues to fight against you having.
The part where he raped a woman and blackballed her for trying to report it was kinda bad. The whole thing where right now he’s committing a genocide is also pretty bad too.
I could do a laundry list thing here but it’s hard to put anything next to rape and murdering two million people with hunger and bombs.
What about Biden is bad exactly? Yeah, he’s old. Yeah, he has the exact same position on Israel as literally every US president since its inception. But what about Biden makes him not “good” in your eyes?
I support Biden not because he’s an anti-Trump, but because he’s a genuinely good man who gets things done. He knows how to work the system and gets results.
As do I. The problem this time around though will be the number of younger independent and third party runners that might end up pulling votes from the “Biden is too old” crowd. And unfortunately, every vote not for Biden is a vote for Trump.
Which is why we need ranked choice voting so we steal power away from this bipartisan system that robs us of our actual choice.
Let’s cut out the middleman and go straight to direct voting.
Although a president is one of the few positions that I think a country could actually use, even with direct voting. Just for diplomatic relations, cause we can’t all talk to the world leaders at once.
The crime bill
And coming soon, the internet bill
Biden makes some very poor policy choices. He also championed the bill that made it so you couldn’t default on student loan debt. He also conceded the suspension of student loan repayment and got virtually nothing for it.
I am 100% voting for Biden next November and anyone who doesn’t is a god damn idiot but I am never going to pretend Biden is the right pill for america.
Edit: But look at this you guys. We are fucking arguing about Biden in a thread about how the media sucks at portraying Trump for what he is. This is the exact false equivalent the media keeps pushing.
We are asking ourselves why Churchill sucks when Hitler is on the rise.
The crime bill was a bad move, but you’d have to also be angry at the congressional black caucus, local POC leaders etc, and I never hear anyone complain about them.
I am.
No genuinely good person
Provides weapons and support for the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian peoples.
Supported the invasion of Afghanistan
Votes against marriage equality.
Voted in favour of the largest ever expansion of police power and expansion of the death penalty.
Etc etc.
Biden is not a good person, Biden is a democrat, a right wing scumbag.
Sometimes you’ve got to pick the better of the two and continue until you have someone great.
A lot of what you’re saying is from a long time ago, like a quarter century ago.
He might not be great but if you’re digging that deep for negatives that’s telling.
Copying my comment from the other reply here:
The question was specifically about why they don’t like Biden. I’m sure they don’t like Trump either, seeing as they called Biden a right-wing scumbag. They answered the question and you people are still like “but Trump!”
If you can’t criticize the things you agree with, they will never improve. If you like something, you should be harder on it than things you don’t like.
It’s generally a bad idea to criticize someone for positions they no longer have and that they now argue against. It’s not really fair to say Biden sucks because of a policy he supported decades ago and no longer does. People should be allowed to change.
Even more, people should be ENCOURAGED to change. One thing that most politicians lack is the ability to reassess a position, and come to the conclusion that they were wrong.
If you blame someone for changing their mind on a position, you just encourage them to dig their heels in deeper and not be open to new information and ideas.
I don’t really agree. We can critique someone on a policy they may have changed position on if they continue to participate in politics and that policy still stands. Until they have an active hand in reversing what they imposed or step away from the job because they admit they are unfit, they don’t get the benefit of the doubt.
Actions speak louder than words sort of thinking here, which I’m inclined to believe.
At the very least, politicians who have changed their stances on issues they voted or worked towards in the past should make reversing those changes part of their agenda. Shows good faith, and is beholden to other branches of the government at that point.
Very often a policy can persist despite someone changing their views on it. Biden is President, he’s not in Congress anymore. The things he can do to effect changes that reflect his own changing views are different now. An example is his changing views on abortions over the last 18 years. In 2006, he stated he believed in limiting abortions, today he’s doing everything possible to protect access but as President, there’s not much he can do about Supreme Court decision and House/states controlled by Republicans. His views changed, but the political landscape makes actually accomplishing broader change near-impossible. That can’t be on him.
I fundamentally disagree with you. Who should it be on? If we held our politicians accountable maybe they wouldn’t have a strangle hold on our government. He has a choice. He can admit fault and resign.
I didn’t mention Trump once.
Who’s the other one of the two? You didn’t explicitly say his name, but you did mention him.
Sometimes? Every US election in my life time was a choice of the lesser evil.
Now that the Republicans run a literal fascist who’s endangering democracy with project 2025 and his promises to imprison his political enemies, the Democrats could even run war criminal W and you’d have to vote for him because any vote not for Bush would be for Trump.
Democracy is completely broken in the US.
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The question was specifically about why they don’t like Biden. I’m sure they don’t like Trump either, seeing as they called Biden a right-wing scumbag. They answered the question and you people are still like “but Trump!”
If you can’t criticize the things you agree with, they will never improve. If you like something, you should be harder on it than things you don’t like.
Sorry for the confusion. I do agree with what he says (in fact, I’m the one that upvoted his comment from -5 to -4), I mean, since you’ve got to choose from two “bad” candidates, I’m pointing out that Trump will still not be an option, given that Biden is not really good a president.
Lmao seethe commie . Enjoy 4 more years, then Buttigieg after.
I’m not American.
I’ll enjoy continuing to watch your country turn to shit from a distance while I enjoy my communist universal healthcare system, you know the thing Biden continues to fight against you having.
Lmao ok. Thanks for not mattering.
I do still hope our next presidents deeply upset you tho
You’re no different than a Trump supporter, you don’t care if you suffer as long as you can make others feel mad.
I hope you live a long, full life, and stay mad about it forever
I hope “owning the commies” provides for you later in life.
It’s always paid off. Best part is it requires 0 effort outside the occasional forum comment.
The part where he raped a woman and blackballed her for trying to report it was kinda bad. The whole thing where right now he’s committing a genocide is also pretty bad too.
I could do a laundry list thing here but it’s hard to put anything next to rape and murdering two million people with hunger and bombs.
Biden is commiting genocide? That’s an interesting take.
What part are you getting hung up on, champ?
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