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      8 months ago

      Cats cant pronounce that tough, so it has to count all of those in a socialist’s name.

      In other news have you seen the latest royal wedding? So beautiful and glamorous, makes me feel blessed to have monarchs ruling over us!

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      8 months ago

      Hey, i hate the british too, but the article doesn’t directly blame the british for the famines and it also includes famines that took place in non-british held or administrated territories.

      Nevertheless, it does point out that in many cases, british administration worsened the situation.

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        8 months ago

        Nevertheless, it does point out that in many cases, british administration worsened the situation.

        To be fair… They were only practising for how they’d treat modern Britain.

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        8 months ago

        Or simply keeping with the theme of answers being a single individual and not an entire nation of hundreds of millions of people spanning centuries.

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          8 months ago

          Fair enough to be honest. I hate Mao, Genghis Khan, Hitler and Stalin too for being genocidal fucks.

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        8 months ago

        Is it Mr the brits or Mrs the brits?

        Ohhhh, you’re conflating a single leader with an entire country.

        You must be a lib, tankies say libs never argue in good faith, and your false equivalence is certainly in bad faith.

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          8 months ago

          Until recently it was Mrs. Now it’s Mr or alternatively his majesty king Charles the 3rd.

          Is there enough reliable data to give a kill count for the different monarchs? It would be kind of interesting who scores highest in that regard.

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            8 months ago

            Exactly! Mao was one leader, England killed millions, sure, but that was spread over many many rulers.

            Mao stands at the top afaik, I’d love to see some stats though!

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      8 months ago

      In fairness we’ve been around a lot longer, but it is impressive how one little island nation has managed to fuck so much shit up from afar.

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      8 months ago

      Can hardly blame them, pestilence and diseases are a genuine concern for any empire where armed forces have to move far distances over land or sea

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        8 months ago

        Can definitely blame them… Several of the famines in their ‘empire’ were either engineered, caused through incompetence or arrogance, or ignored when preventable.

        Ref: Any of bengal’s several famines under British rule, frankly even after once you take Churchill into account.

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      8 months ago

      Nice shoehorn of anglo-saxon history, but those famines are all plagues and crop faliures for the most part.

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        8 months ago

        Why is it the rich never starve if it’s just a totally unaccountable natural disaster?

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            8 months ago

            So it’s less of a natural disaster and more of an economic disaster? I wonder why people would blame governments for that…

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              It is like miles away from the intentional economical engineering we are talking about. Still not sure why you are so bent on trying to wiggle them into a comparsion between regimes and personnel more direct, intentional and immediate like Mao or Stalin.

              If you dont distinguish from those, then why even have a debate on them?

              The joke implied that the question intended to ask one or very few directly involved personnel and you disregarded that. Thats it.

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                8 months ago

                Right sure, when the British intentionally abuse Ireland and India it’s really just a whoopsie-daisy.

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                  8 months ago

                  Should I really do the same kind of jumping to conclusions?

                  Are you saying that the largest completely man made famine ever does not really deserve that much of a recognition?

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          8 months ago

          Rich usually have more resources and ability to purchase them at elevated prices. Hope that helps

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          8 months ago

          No

          A famine is a widespread scarcity of food,[1][2] caused by several factors including war, natural disasters, crop failure, widespread poverty, an economic catastrophe or government policies.

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          Im pretty sure that was not during the drought itself, nor really caused it. It economically made sense and then probably exacerbated the famine.

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            8 months ago

            It wasn’t just the drought. Indigo cropping destroyed the soil first, drought exacerbated the problems.

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    8 months ago

    I get the joke but I still expected some tankies to show up. But then again, OP is on lemmy.world which is defederated with the tankie instances so that’s why

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      8 months ago

      While it has proven difficult to accurately estimate the pre-colonial population and the amount by which it changed under the Congo Free State, estimates for the Congolese population decline during Leopold’s rule range from 1 million to 15 million.

      That’s a lot, but not even close to Mao

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      8 months ago

      Noobish kdr. Max 10 millions deaths, somewhere between a French general during WWI (not counting German casualties) and minor paranoid dictators. Too much time larping as a psychopathic torturer, not enough time getting the job done. Mao killed several million people on a good mood, that’s professionalism.

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        That’s ridiculous, you can’t judge the genocidal madmen KDA on body count alone, Leopold simply did more evil with less resources than anyone ever!

        Starting position matters, and Leopold came from behind to become one of the worsts.

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        8 months ago

        The question does not require a single name, it said who, which can be answered with a list of people or groups of people. Eg. Who did I make love to last night? A: Your parents!

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        8 months ago

        How about Bill Gates? His control of intellectual property law allowed him to almost personally stop the global south from manufacturing their own COVID vaccines and instead have to purchase them from the west. Bill Gates is answerable to millions of deaths. He’s one of the most evil people alive but you get weird looks saying so. He’s one of the top 5 richest people in the world and has spent the last two decades doing PR.

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      8 months ago

      I don’t see why you’re so flustered, it wasn’t real communism…

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        8 months ago

        Well, the workers didn’t own the means of production, they didn’t abolish currency, they didn’t do anything about class division, they didn’t abolish the state, they didn’t empower the working class, and they aren’t going to do any of these things later, but on the other hand, you clearly think mao was very trustworthy so surely you must just be taking his word for it.