• cm0002@piefed.worldOP
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    2 days ago

    There are actually plenty of tankies on Reddit, but with Reddit you have to pretty much seek it out because of the massive user base

    Legend goes that dessalines actually started Lemmy because their Reddit main got perm banned because he went a lil too tankie

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      2 days ago

      I remember a huge dustup maybe 4 years ago where tankies infiltrated and tried to take over a bunch of left leaning subs within a few weeks. They do it regularly too. I’ve noticed quite a few db0 accounts that are around 9 months old spewing the usual tankie shit.

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        13 hours ago

        They do it regularly too. I’ve noticed quite a few db0 accounts that are around 9 months old spewing the usual tankie shit.

        We’ve been noticing the same. your thoughts?

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          12 hours ago

          Pretty sure it’s just an attempt to normalize their talking points by worming them into discussions. Spreading to different instances is a reaction to grad and hex being largely defederated and ml names being a huge red flag for a bunch of people. I think the reality is that even if everyone defederates every tankie instance, they’ll keep creeping in through different instances. I don’t see a solution beyond simply keeping an eye out and tagging/moderating individuals as they pop up.

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              12 hours ago

              Who’s they? The broader fediverse or mods or both? I guess in either case the thing to do would be tag the users, downvote, and call out their bad talking points. Hopefully enough people pile on to show that we won’t swallow their bullshit.

              It’s tough when they’re clever about it. It took me months to realize what cowbee was doing. Luckily most of them aren’t that clever.

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      2 days ago

      Legend goes that dessalines actually started Lemmy because their Reddit main got perm banned because he went a lil too tankie

      Hey dessalines, care to chime in on why you are the way you are?

      • goat@sh.itjust.worksM
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        2 days ago

        Tankies never venture into this community, despite this being a place where they can freely discuss their viewpoints. It’s because they know their positions don’t hold any weight, and they’re afraid of being scrutinised.

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        1 day ago

        alot of tankies probably got banned from reddit for the same reason they are getting blocked/defederated here. plus we get conservatives too trickling from time to time.

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          13 hours ago

          I’ve honestly never seen a conservative on Lemmy. But then again I don’t tend to browse much of the fediverse as it’s all yankslop

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      1 day ago

      tankies get astroturfed by right wingers so much they are pretty much invisible. and the ones on the “left” but not extreme left filters them enough for the same results.

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        1 day ago

        What’s the “extreme left”? Anarchists? Why would they support authoritarianism?

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          1 day ago

          Indeed as an Anarchist, tankies and maga conservatives are the mirror of each other, it’s just who holds the hammer and gun that differs.

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            1 day ago

            You won’t see a tankie doing a nazi salute, but you will find them spouting the same antisemitism

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              Anti-Semitism as a phrase is broken, maybe you should find a new word to use that isn’t poisoned. Did you know that the Arab peoples are semitic?

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                  Idk what to use instead but the Nazis busy accusing everybody opposing the Nazi shit in the Middle East right now of being anti-Semitic has ruined that phrase.

                  Ie, Israel’s others, forced into ghettos Israel controls where they control everything coming in and out, impoverishing the populations for decades, have after a ghetto Uprising embarked on a final solution, first for Gaza later for the ghettos in the West Bank.

                  Anyone calling this for what it is is accused of anti-semitism. And every organization has been bullied into accepting it as a valid criticism, from social media companies to political organizations to universities. So I don’t know what a replacement phrase should be, but that phrase I believe is broken.

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                    For Israel’s actions, I just call it imperialism or atrocities.

                    I’m hesitant about changing anti-semitism or changing zionism to mean imperialism/occupation due to the fuel it’ll give alt-righters and antisemites to hide their bigotry. Had a user here who was using “zio,” a phrase coined by the KKK leader David Duke.

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                  1 day ago

                  I guess he refers to the fact that the US/UK uses it to label human rights activism as terrorism.

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                    13 hours ago

                    I’m a little weary about using human rights activism, as that’s exactly the same as what anti-immigration and “white replacement” nazis say, ‘We’re protesting human rights’ – Not that I’m calling them nazis, just that it doesn’t magically make groups infallible. Actions speak louder than words