In an extraordinary pushback against Pope Francis, some Catholic bishops in Africa, Poland and elsewhere say they will not implement the new Vatican policy allowing blessings for same-sex couples.

Others downplayed the policy approved this week by Francis as merely reaffirming the Vatican’s long-standing teaching about marriage being only a union between a man and a woman.

The reactions show how polarizing the issue remains and how Francis’ decade-long effort to make the church a more welcoming place for the LGBTQ+ community continues to spark resistance among traditionalist and conservative Catholic leaders.

Some of the strongest responses came from bishops in Africa, home to 265 million Catholics, or nearly a quarter of the world’s 1.3 billion Catholics. Many of those Catholics live and their churches operate in societies where homosexuality is condemned and outlawed.

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    11 months ago

    Isn’t, according to Catholics beliefs, the pope infallible? Is that not a core part of the religion that separates it from Protestants?

    Are we about to witness a splitting of the Catholic church?

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      I mean, that’s kind of why we have all the offshoots…

      It kind of makes sense when you realize all the Abrahamic religions are just spun off some dude named Abraham’s story about how an imaginary man in the sky commanded him to kill his brother, so he did. And then the voice said to kill his son, and he was gonna do it. But at the last second the voice said it was test. So clearly the voice is kind and should be worshipped.

      Sometimes a new leader makes them less crazy, sometimes more crazy

      But at a fundamental level the vast majority of western religion (like Middle East to West Coast North America) is based on some dude who listened to the voices inside his head to kill his family members 50% of the time.

      It’s all built on a flawed premise. So anything else can be rationalized.

      Which is why most followers were either born into it, or joined in incredibly stressful/difficult times in their lives.

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        Abraham doesn’t kill his brother in the Bible, just fyi. Googling it brings up zero relevant results so idk where that comes from. He did send his concubine and their mutual child into the wilderness after he knocked up someone else though, so still pretty shitty.

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      Only via ex cathedra i.e “from the chair.” The catholic church has had an… interesting history when it comes to papal authority.

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      So papal infallibility only applies when they’re speaking ex cathedra (from the throne). The only time that’s happened was in 1950. It’s more that daughter churches need to maintain a “catholic” (universal) church within established rites.

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      “Rules for thee and rules for me.” They hate gays more now than they love gods representative they decided. This is the steadfast “truth” we should all rally around and tell women what they can do with their bodies, when they can’t even follow their own rules.

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        Catholicism is itself a sect of the larger religion of Christianity. But yes, apparently there is a new Christian derived sect every second bigger town.