• rigatti@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    She’s a fine singer, I’m sure you can find some other criticism to use here.

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          3 days ago

          That millions of people consider themselves her fans speaks volumes to how wrong you are. I’m a metalhead but to say in absolutes that she can’t sing in an enjoyable way is ludicrous.

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            2 days ago

            Just because a lot of people believe something doesn’t make it true. Millions of people voted for Trump, I guess they were correct?

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              2 days ago

              You said that she can’t make enjoyable music. If millions of people enjoy her music, it’s enjoyable.

              Millions of people liked Trump, Trump WAS likeable to them when they voted, you can’t deny that part. Them choosing the best choice or not is irrelevant to the point you were making. You didn’t say that her music was bad or derivative. You said that she can’t sing in a way that people enjoy, but people do enjoy it.

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          3 days ago

          I agree. When her vocals are mixed and auto tuned, she sounds great. I think she puts together some pretty great tracks, but I’ve heard her try to sing without any enhancements and I do not like it. In my opinion, she’s an artist, not a singer.

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        3 days ago

        If someone finds her raw singing enjoyable, more power to them. I didn’t think I had to be super specific that a statement of taste was an opinion. LOL

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      3 days ago

      We’ll have to agree to disagree on the topic. I think she’s a pretty great artist who makes wonderful use of auto tune and other modern music-making marvels, but in my opinion saying she is a singer is a stretch of the imagination.

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        3 days ago

        Look, dude, I’m not a T-Swift fan by any means, but she would not have made it this far if she wasn’t a competent singer. Just did a quick search to find her singing live, and I listened to five seconds of this video of her on SNL. She’s not an Adele or Mariah Carey or something, but she’s fine. She does what she needs to do. Saying she relies on autotune and other studio magic is kind of a silly argument. Everyone uses that these days.

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          3 days ago

          I didn’t say everyone doesn’t use it some. I’m saying I’ve heard her without it and the few times I have, I didn’t think it sounded good at all. I like a whole lot of people that aren’t Mariah Carey or Adele. I never said that was my expectation…