You need a license to operate a motor vehicle, but you shouldn’t have to submit to a search (eg presenting identification) without a reason. They should need probable cause
Like I said, there’s practical considerations here, but the right itself has been given up in favor of enforcement
Also, how do you actually travel between state lines without ID? It’s now required for a bus, train, or plane. You could be a passenger, but you probably can’t ride a bike or walk legally unless you cross through a town on the border. And you definitely can’t do it safely because of cars
You could be a passenger in a private car, although police are likely to harass you if you hitchhike. And passengers are increasingly being forced to identify during traffic stops, another way the right continues to be eroded
A right you can only practice theoretically isn’t a right
Probable cause like not having a valid license plate? And no, one that simply says “PRIVATE” does not count. It doesn’t matter if the vehicle is for non-commercial use; if it’s on public, taxpayer-funded roads, its operator had better be a taxpayer.
Also there’s nothing stopping you crossing state lines on foot, or a bicycle, or any other non-regulated form of transit you don’t need ID to make use of.
Also can you quickly show me where the right to travel without a government ID is enshrined? I must have missed that in my constitutional research.
Also there’s nothing stopping you crossing state lines on foot, or a bicycle, or any other non-regulated form of transit you don’t need ID to make use of.
Physically could you? Sometimes… Good luck going between cities safely and/or legally though. In some places it’s very possible, but most of the country cars are the only safe way to travel for any real distance
A right that can’t be practically used isn’t a right anymore
Also can you quickly show me where the right to travel without a government ID is enshrined? I must have missed that in my constitutional research.
It’s the fourth amendment, being forced to present ID is a search. The State is not supposed to be able to search you just because they feel like it.
If you could get on a bus or train without ID, it would be less of a big deal since there are practical considerations to operating a dangerous machine. But we’re becoming less free by the day
Rights have to be fought for. They erode if you don’t push for them
I actually just think they shouldn’t be allowed to run your plate or check your license unless there’s reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. Such as driving in an unsafe manner
You need a license to operate a motor vehicle, but you shouldn’t have to submit to a search (eg presenting identification) without a reason. They should need probable cause
Like I said, there’s practical considerations here, but the right itself has been given up in favor of enforcement
Also, how do you actually travel between state lines without ID? It’s now required for a bus, train, or plane. You could be a passenger, but you probably can’t ride a bike or walk legally unless you cross through a town on the border. And you definitely can’t do it safely because of cars
You could be a passenger in a private car, although police are likely to harass you if you hitchhike. And passengers are increasingly being forced to identify during traffic stops, another way the right continues to be eroded
A right you can only practice theoretically isn’t a right
Probable cause like not having a valid license plate? And no, one that simply says “PRIVATE” does not count. It doesn’t matter if the vehicle is for non-commercial use; if it’s on public, taxpayer-funded roads, its operator had better be a taxpayer.
Also there’s nothing stopping you crossing state lines on foot, or a bicycle, or any other non-regulated form of transit you don’t need ID to make use of.
Also can you quickly show me where the right to travel without a government ID is enshrined? I must have missed that in my constitutional research.
Physically could you? Sometimes… Good luck going between cities safely and/or legally though. In some places it’s very possible, but most of the country cars are the only safe way to travel for any real distance
A right that can’t be practically used isn’t a right anymore
It’s the fourth amendment, being forced to present ID is a search. The State is not supposed to be able to search you just because they feel like it.
If you could get on a bus or train without ID, it would be less of a big deal since there are practical considerations to operating a dangerous machine. But we’re becoming less free by the day
Rights have to be fought for. They erode if you don’t push for them
I actually just think they shouldn’t be allowed to run your plate or check your license unless there’s reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. Such as driving in an unsafe manner