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Violence is always a bad answer.
Sometimes its the least bad answer of the options available.This is especially true when violence is also the question.
Reminds me of this gem
Violence may not be the answer, but it’s always an answer.
It isn’t always the best option, but certain people sure seem to want to make it one of the only options left…
“violence is not the answer” coming from the people commiting it.
“all political violence is wrong”
detains community leaders in concentration camps
“we should talk things out in the marketplace of ideas”
censors all discussion of wealth redistribution, even the most tame acts like raising taxes on billionaires just a little bit
“violence has no place in our lives”
invades a nation in the global south under flimsy pretexts
You can be nice, but there are people who exist who will take your kindness and then go commit a genocide. Those people should be your enemies.
Shut it Thorfinn Karlsefni.
I was expecting many things but this, this ain’t fucken one of em. What the actual fuck am I looking at. Why is Mikus cousin getting her mouth and jaw flesh gripped like meat flaps.
Y’know what fuck it going to go watch some random shit have fun with thine waifu bait homunculus.
Aight mate.
That just tells me how often we fail to find the right answer and then continue going ahead like violence is the right answer. It’s an indictment against us as a whole.
That just tells me how often we fail to find the right answer and then continue going ahead like violence is the right answer
Okay, so what was the right answer to say… Hitler trying to take over the world?
Not this again. The indictment is against Hitler. Hitler decided to go to war and commit genocide instead of going to therapy, maybe. Can we please just stop with the whatabout-ism?
It’s not whataboutism, it’s a legitimate point. I agree that Hitler was the problem and at fault, but that doesn’t change the fact that for the rest of the world the ‘right’ answer to the Hitler problem was in fact violence.
Sorry but there is an assumption implicit in your argument that tyrants like Hitler are somehow not human and are exceptional and not really a part of humanity. Well, they are.
There is this quote that I absolutely love
“No tyrant could thrive where every subject said no. The tyrant thrives when the first fucking fool salutes.” -Steven Erikson.
I repeat, it is really shameful of us that we are far too often the fools to salute.
Sorry but there is an assumption implicit in your argument that tyrants like Hitler are somehow not human and are exceptional and not really a part of humanity
Never claimed or implied that. So don’t really have anything to respond to here as this is all entirely unrelated to what I was saying.
Perhaps I am failing to make you understand that in my mind, Axis and Allies are a part of one larger group, humanity. Hitler starting the war to conquer Europe is a failing of humanity, in this case failing of Germans to stop Hitler from sparking the war. I am not saying that Allies responding in kind, with violence is failing. It was only appropriate. They most likely were left with no other choice.
It was only appropriate. They most likely were left with no other choice.
Therefore, on the individual level there are in fact times when violence is the answer, even if that’s just because it is the only answer remaining.
It takes two people to come to an agreement, but only one to start a fight.
Ironically, Mutually Assured Destruction has actually prevented nuclear war, even if it did result in a lot of proxy wars.
It’s a real world example of the trolley problem. The US and USSR killed hundreds of thousands Vietnamese but saved the lives of billions of other folks.
Sounds like nuclear weapons changed nothing. Imperialism still wins.
Exactly. If we keep doing it, clearly it is not the answer but rather a postponement
This is a situation like tolerance. People who are for tolerance do not need to tolerate intolerance to be tolerant, same goes for non-violence.
This! People who are for violence do not need to tolerate non-violence to be violent.
Lmao
Exactly. If we keep doing it, clearly it is not the answer but rather a postponement
Clearly the answer to hunger is not eating. The answer to being tired is not sleeping. The answer to making a mistake is not apologizing…
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
Isaac Asimov, Foundation
“Those that makes peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable.”
Did he propose a workable alternative (actually asking)? Not that it invalidates the point one way or the other, just wonder if he had some “system” he preferred.
Violence is the answer to the question we keep asking: “How do I get power over other people?”
“If war never changes, then men must change.”
- Ulysses, Fallout New Vegas
The theft from the output of one’s labor under threat of starvation and death is an insidious form of violence.
It’s ideal to attempt harm reduction but when all possible non violent methods have been exhausted, violence is the remaining method of harm reduction.
The winners of wars write the history books. There are so many peaceful small wins that we don’t share enough. Violence does not have to be the answer, but we lack the imagination to believe this because we are not being taught the peaceful ways. Not even in movies and games.
