• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      The bulk of the combatants are conscripts in Israel and partisans in Gaza. This is functionally a war between civilians.

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        9 months ago

        I’m not sure a conscript or partisan fall under the definition of civilian. But what do I know.

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          9 months ago

          Civilians in these territories are quickly and easily converted into enemy combatants, thanks to the policies and conditions of the respective states.

          On the Israeli side, everyone is expected to be eligible for call-up to serve in the IDF. Its a condition of citizenship. Similarly, every exit from Gaza is manned by Israeli military personal who conceive of any effort to breach the perimeter as an act of war. Israeli Settlers are all armed and expected to assist in securing that border. And they routinely fire across the border at what they consider hostile targets within the Gaza region. If everyone living along the border is potentially a member of the military, and even the farmers and construction workers and homemakers are expected to serve as de facto border guards, does that mean Israel lacks a civilian population? shrug

          Similarly, on the Gaza side, we’ve seen Israel Defense Force officers insist that children as young as six years old were enemy combatants. We’ve seen their policy of shooting through “human shields” and bombing schools, shelters, and hospitals on the grounds that they are all protecting militants or harboring tunnel networks underneath. What civilian population remains to speak of in Gaza, when every resident can be credibly identified as an insurgent and every inch of real estate justifiably bombarded on the grounds that it is part of a Hamas military installation?

          Under these conditions, what civilian population exists to speak of?

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            9 months ago

            Israeli Settlers are all armed and expected to assist in securing that border. And they routinely fire across the border at what they consider hostile targets within the Gaza region.

            and even the farmers and construction workers and homemakers are expected to serve as de facto border guards, does that mean Israel lacks a civilian population? shrug

            Wait can you provide a source for that? This is my first time seeing this.

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                9 months ago

                I can’t find anything about the parts I quoted, though. This article is only about formal conscription in the IDF.

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                  9 months ago

                  Once they have completed their mandatory term of service, all discharged citizens remain eligible to be called up for reserve duty until the age of 40.

                  Everyone who is able to fight is eligible for enlistment. And after Oct 7th, tens of thousands of conscripts were recalled for service, effectively mobilizing a large chunk of the Israeli civilian workforce.

                  This article is only about formal conscription in the IDF.

                  Which, exempting a handful of ultra-orthodox religious sects (and all Arabs), includes the entire Israeli population. Nobody is a civilian. They’re all officially in the Israeli reserve defense force.

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                    9 months ago

                    You said this.

                    Israeli Settlers are all armed and expected to assist in securing that border. And they routinely fire across the border at what they consider hostile targets within the Gaza region.

                    and even the farmers and construction workers and homemakers are expected to serve as de facto border guards, does that mean Israel lacks a civilian population?

                    Can you provide sources for these two claims?