- cross-posted to:
- politics@beehaw.org
- cross-posted to:
- politics@beehaw.org
The former president has pushed a slew of terrifying proposals, both publicly and privately, that he plans to unleash on America should he take down Biden
Here’s what’s at stake:
- He will indict Biden and his other political enemies
- He will round up, intern, and deport undocumented immigrants
- He will send the military to the border
- He will invade Mexico
- He will round up the homeless and send the National Guard into cities to fight crime
- He will bring back the death penalty in a big way
- He will make stuff more expensive by taxing all imported goods
- He will reevaluate America’s participation in NATO
- He will roll back all of Biden’s climate progress and reinvest in fossils fuels
- He will construct “freedom cities” filled with flying cars
- He will try to overhaul the education system in the MAGA image
- He will torch the First Amendment by going after non-MAGA media
- He will legally delegitimize trans Americans
- He will pardon the Jan. 6 rioters
- He will gut the federal government and take unprecedented control of what’s left
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Can we stop calling insurrectionists “rioters”?
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Would you like it more if you knew that they’re the ones who used the term because it’s a fascist dogwhistle?
Can we stop calling overfenders “wide body”.
Sorry, unrelated.
How about “peaceful protestors” like the year long riots from the left?
Fuck off fascist.
The protests for racial justice had literally no chance of toppling the government. Whereas the coup attempt was the closest our democracy has come to destruction since the civil war (I’m sure you were cool with the slavers in that one, eh?).
The insurrectionists are an antidemocratic force that go against everything this country stands for whereas the George Floyd protests were demand our government live up to its ideals that “all men are created equal” and deserve full rights under the constitution.
They were kind of pretty lame as insurrectionists, I mean they were let in, they had inside tours and were given specific instructions.
God’s gracious their two neurons didn’t meet each other on that day.
Being an idiot doesn’t make you any less of an insurrectionist. Also all released footage shows otherwise.
And I love how the fact that they weren’t immediately mowed down with gunfire somehow implies they were permitted to be there. No they weren’t, it wasn’t a tour, it was an armed insurrection. Cops showing restraint doesn’t make you any less culpable for the crime.
Cops showing restraint doesn’t make you any less culpable for the crime.
Yeah, it usually just means you’re white.
Yeah, it usually just means you’re white.
And boy howdy…
Not exactly what happened in Occupy WS…
The tours I’m referring to were given to some of them weeks prior to the event.
You seem disappointed that they failed.
I’m rather grateful. Oddly thinking they resemble the baddies in 80s Saturday morning cartoons.
That said, this year I’m loosing sleep over the thought that someone competent might give it a try.
lol “god,” as if the invisible sky myth favors people based on political party.
He will construct “freedom cities” filled with flying cars
Is that a joke?
…I hesitate to say I hope these cities happen because Libertarian dreams often crash into reality catastrophically, but…also, I hope it happens because Libertarians dreams will definitely crash into reality catastrophically.
You know about the bears, right?
https://newrepublic.com/article/159662/libertarian-walks-into-bear-book-review-free-town-project
Was the airplane a libertarian dream? Because a whole bunch of them crashed into reality before air travel developed into what it is today. They still crash, but people accept the risk. If were invented today, I’m not sure the concept would have survived people’s handwringing.
Sounds like Trump has been listening to somebody who idolizes Ayn Rand.
You mean the Ayn Rand that required socialist Medicare at the end of her useless life spent writing the absolute worst fantasy novels?
Which strikes me as odd since Trump didn’t gain anything on his own merit.
Those are the exact sort of people who idolize Ayn Rand the most.
Libertarians love to gesture vaguely towards unregulated freedom and even anarchy, as if it’s some panacea for society’s problems.
Of course, that’s usually about as far or deep as their plans go. They think grit and gumption are enough to get us there, somehow, and that we’ll all sing kumbaya, if only we’d let capitalism run unfettered and let people use racial slurs and hate speech with impunity.
As an anarchist is hilarious watching right libertarians parrot a bunch of lefty shit they heard from a podcast all while not realizing them and their ideology is one of the first things that would have to go in order to realize their half baked fantasies
Except weight.
That’s not especially shocking.
Flying cars that are available cost at 10 to 100 times as much as normal cars. Same for flying license. That’s one rich city.
We’ll all be so rich we’ll be begging him to make us less rich.
Only the part about affordable housing.
He wants to indict Biden, whilst simultaneously creating / wanting freedom to never be charged with anything when you’re president. Which has to happen before he’s able to become president again.
Which would mean that Biden could simply direct SEAL Team 6 to execute Trump with impunity, solving the problem.
But the ruling won’t happen till AFTER T gets re-elected (or cheats his way in), when Biden wouldnt be pres anymore. Delay, delay, delay is the game.
Trump is already insisting all this is above board - I’ve gotta say, I’m a little tired of calling out all his/their bullshit.
…but yeah - reelection is his only ticket out at this point, it seems. Even general Dem refusal to rock the boat seems to be wearing thin, and that won’t count for much in court.
Isn’t there something in the rule book that the president can avert dangers against the U.S. by force…?
Biden should file Amicus brief with SCOTUS presidential immunity case saying if they are so ok with what Trump’s lawyers are saying, he has Seal Team 6 standing by awaiting their ruling.
Why stop at Trump? If they’re willing to create a dictatorship out of one party, it’s only fair that the other party takes the reins when the opportunity arises. /s
Democrats should clear the senate, house and courts of any dissenters upon the ruling.
Keep seal team 6 on standby to really get the political machine straightened out.
That’s where this goes.
Rules for thee, not for me!
He will round up, intern, and deport undocumented immigrants
A few months later, farmers are surprised there are no cheap workers anymore to help in the fields. Farmers get in (more) financial problems, prices start to rise in the supermarket as supply shrinks. Trump blames Democrats for his actions. Rural voters get more angry.
This sort of played out in Australia where everyone also hates the scary immigrants, except it was when backpackers stopped coming during the height of covid. Once the farms ran out of people to exploit and realised there weren’t many Australians willing to go live in a shed in the middle of nowhere and get paid a criminally low wage they all started freaking out. They even started ‘importing’ labour lol. And of course the response is ‘nobody wants to work anymore.’
UK had the same with Brexit. Kick out all the scary foreigners, found out there were a lot less people willing to harvest, wait tables or drive trucks for the wages being offered. Last I heard, there are still no people to do those jobs, just less business.
Food is simply too cheap, no one can raise prices because it’s a controlled system. Besides, people will buy less stuff it prices go up.
And paying an honest wage for the work? Cuts into profit margins…
This is already happening, you can find articles about it all over red America.
Have you seen the amounts of chaos farmers are able to cause?
Examples in France, the Netherlands and recently Germany?
You do not want that shit in the USA, because your farmers are not only equipped with heavy machinery but firearms as well. If they start blockading critical interstate or transit roads just to make a point, I think it is likely to end in deaths.
We’ve had one situation where a moment of panic resulted in a police officer opening fire on a kid driving a tractor. No one got hurt but because of how our law works, every time a firearm is used by regular law enforcement, a criminal investigation is opened. And the officer was charged with attempted manslaughter.
Would this have happened in the states, I’d have expected a different outcome.
Cue him trying to funnel their anger towards his (next) political opponents
That’s how fascists go about their business. By the time it becomes evident that their actions against the current entry on the “then they came for” list aren’t going to solve solve the problems they claimed they would, they have already started ramping up their hatred for the next entry on the list.
His plan if he gets to be president again is to not have to worry about political opponents anymore. He’ll still demonize them and blame them for everything going wrong, but the elections will be cancelled.
I hope he dies of syphilis.
I just hope he dies period. With extreme prejudice
Trump pulls pages out of other people’s handbooks. His MAGA bullshit was Reagan’s. Now in 2024 he’s walking in Hitler’s footsteps. I’m not saying ”Hitler” as a buzz word. I’m saying it, because he’s literally doing it. His whole schtick is Hitler’s and his* base are lapping it up like mindless fools. Open your eyes and reject authoritarian assholes like Trump. It’s all fun and games until the things you believe in are eventually taken from you. I might not agree with everything others do, but I sure as fuck believe in people’s rights to determine what’s right for themselves. Trump and all his cronies believe they know what’s right for others — they don’t. They know what’s right for themselves. If you want to vote for Trump, vote for him. But don’t think that something you hold dear won’t eventually be attacked by him or people like him.
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Yep. January 6th was his Beer Hall Putsch. A failed coup. But Hitler got what Trump should have been getting, i.e. a prison sentence for treason.
Then again, perhaps that prison sentence was one of the things that gave him so much power later on.
There are some significant differences too, though. Hitler was 34 years old, and a war veteran at the time of his first coup. Trump was 74, and he was the first US president without prior military or government experience.
Maybe we will get the Bell Riots after all.
The problem is that this sounds like a very sexy shopping list to people on the other side. Some of these are enticing even to a lot of democrats, especially the ones about crime in cities. We know it’s a bullshit promise that would fail spectacularly, but the idea of it is scintillating to some. I fear for their votes.
“Cracking down on crime in cities” is code for cracking down on minorities.
Cities are huge, so there’s a lot of crime in aggregate, but if you calculate an average crime rate per x number of people, you find that small towns are often way worse.
Yes, but it’s easier for Republican mouth breathers to understand “Chicago had 12,000 murder last year” than “The per capita murder rate in Chicago is 5.2 compared to 15.7 in East Cousin-sister-fucking-menage-a-troi, Arkansas.”
Also, doesn’t really roll off the tongue, does it? /j
If we put a cost on crime, I’m pretty sure the national guard should go instead to Wall Street. Hell, even some police stations might be costing more in comparison.
The biggest form of property crime in the US – by far – is wage theft.
This is the similar problem to the election where he won. He pushed a shopping list of utter insanity, but to many, it was change. When you feel that you are on the fringe of society, and that the world doesn’t recognise/respect you, you’re going to go for the candidate that says “I’ll make it different” - even if that difference is categorically worse.
It’s how the right wing wins everywhere, from Brexit, to the Netherlands, to the US.
The only thing I’m sure he will do is ensure that he keeps the power for the rest of his life. USA will have his first dictator!!
I was gonna say, isn’t that like 5 more years? But I remembered that evil never dies (and Regan lived to 93).
Well he has children so you can expect the Trumps to control the country for decades if gets elected. I firmly believe his election would mean the end of us democracy and the begining of autoritarian era all over the world.
But muh gEnOcidE Joe!
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Maybe people will realize that being politically active requires a lot more than complaining online during election years.
This could have been avoided a long time ago. But the far left is notorious for not showing up when it’s necessary, only to complain afterwards and pretend they had no part in it.
people are entitled to whine online as often as they like.
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people voting for Trump got trump elected. do you think sarcastic Democrats had any effect on how many of them there were?
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I’m not a liberal. baby, I’m an anarchist.
and I’m not gonna be voting for trump either.
I’ll be voting for a candidate who opposes the mic. will you?
Nobody is stopping them, but they’re also achieving absolutely nothing.
just like Hilary
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You’re being made to pick whether to keep a democracy or succumbing to fascism. And you’re picking fascism because you think it’s not your problem.
I don’t want to see you complain after this election.
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Already with the tankie talking points? Figures you’d be the one to criticize, cry, blame everyone else, and dip.
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don’t tell me what to do.
Who tf are you
someone not voting for biden
Oh it’s absolutely a you problem. YOU don’t understand what’s at stake. YOU are stubborn. YOU refuse to listen to anyone that has tried to explain to YOU the consequences of YOUR decision to stay home.
What YOU are doing affects EVERYONE. But YOU don’t care.
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Such eDgE! Social justice has never seen such a warrior like you!
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And you’ll get Trump.
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Newsflash, fascism is on the rise everywhere and letting the US get overrun will only make it worse everywhere else.
If you so think that you can shove the problem over to the next country, I so hope you stop complaining about it and fully commit to stoically accepting that life as it is.
Hahaha… Wait are you serious?
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Freedom Cities? With Flying Cars?
I feel like he’s drinking out of Musk’s juice box
Yeah I’m still hung up on that even though I shouldn’t be. That is so far fetched while the other ideas are much more realistic but much scarier. It feels like a distraction.
No the others I get, he’s a dictator and we’re all going to die… but that’s…
Imagine you’ve got a sadistic psycho who has tied you to a chair, and he’s getting out a scalpel, a cat of nine tails, vicegrips, and a bottle of Vitamin C tablets
…Your focus is gonna be on the Bottle because the other stuff makes contextual sense and your brain is trying to piece together the part it doesn’t get.
Sounds very Chinese
He will be more aggressive than the first term for sure.
What a shit hole and waste of flesh this man is composed of.
this list is actually comedically villainous, who tf agrees with this guy anymore?
Idiots who think Trump will hurt whoever they perceive their enemies to be.
Biden with no message of hope and other than he is not Trump. That is sure one dangerous way to try to save democracy. Trump is the worst option. Biden still has a small amount of time to course correct and try to connect with people other than fear.
