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    Won? They will do it again. The only winning move is not to play their game. Choose Free Software.

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      Genuine question: What do you recommend? I want to replace Windows 10 on a 8-year-old midrange laptop with something that works reasonably well in terms of performance with a connected 4K monitor.

      I’ve already tried Ubuntu, but unfortunately the experience has been marred by bugs such as poor performance, visual glitches, windows jumping around when attempting to move them, and DPI settings not being able to be applied per screen.

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        Linux is definitely the route. A lot of people use Mint or Ubuntu. But they are usually running out of date drivers.

        I’d recommend looking into distros based on Fedora Workstation. It stays up to date but not as much as Arch so that it’s stable.

        My recommendation is any of the Universal Blue images that fit your need. They are based off of the Fedora Atomic image with added quality of life features.

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        I’ve had more luck with Mint, thanks to its Windows-adjacent GUI and user-friendly on ramp. Still encountered a few issues (a couple of peripherals that didn’t support Linux drivers). But on the whole, it’s improved system performance over Win10 and synced smoothly with my workstation.

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        If you identify your laptop (including model number) someone who has the same hardware might be able to make a solid recommendation.

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        I am more impressed you got windows 10 to work well on 8 year old computers ngl. I had an HP pavillion around that age and it had torturingly low startup speed.

        Definetely try mint-cinnamon and mint-xfce4, latter one uses xfce4 which has very good performance.

        A lot of experienced users will find linux run without bugs for them but that’s because it’s an OS that gets better as you learn more.

        In my case battery life was 2 hours on windows and 1.5 hours on linux. But once I past the skill-curve I tweaked it to be 6 hours because I knew how to find what caused the problem and fix it.

        Either that or there is the IT-guy effect going on where once an experienced user shows up the aura just makes computers work normal again lmao.

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        I can’t say I’ve had those issues myself, so my recommendation may not be valid in your case. I’d say maybe give Fedora with KDE Plasma a try, and try switching between X11 and Wayland sessions if issues persist.

        I personally don’t like Ubuntu, but that’s mostly because of Canonical making the occasional sketchy decision.

        On the whole, distro choice doesn’t matter quite as much these days, as most distros should work fine out of the box. Whatever issues you have should technically be solvable with a bit of troubleshooting.

        Sometimes Linux just doesn’t play well with your setup. Good luck, and I hope you find something that works for you!

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    The title of the article is very misleading. Microsoft has not said they’ll be removing AI features already deployed on Windows. All it says is they’re reevaluating AI features going forward and streamlining the experience whatever that means. It sounds like they’re looking to rename unpopular unwanted feature like Recall instead of scrapping it. The whole thing is just a PR move to placate the disgruntled masses. Also they said nothing about intrusive ads, telemetry, or rapidly declining stability of overall system. Recent update literally broke windows explorer, task bar and start menu. One thing for certain, Microsoft will not stop using Copilot to develop their software in house. That would be admitting Ai tools are useless and that would sink Microsoft stock even further than it already has.

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      You mean a company founded on lies, by a good friend of Epstein, is misleading the public! It’s not like he’s trying to treat us for his std…

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      One thing for certain, Microsoft will not stop using Copilot to develop their software in house.

      You’re wrong, but I think you’ll be OK with that because the reality of the situation is actually hilarious:

      https://www.theverge.com/tech/865689/microsoft-claude-code-anthropic-partnership-notepad

      “Turns out Copilot sucks so let’s just use our competitor’s superior product but that’s no reason we can’t keep foisting the inferior garbage on the masses!”

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        Honestly it’s good engineering practice to not be stuck in your own product.

        You want them to be using only copilot?

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    The only thing they’re rethinking is how to repackage this so people accept it. They learned a lot from this, but I promise you it wasn’t the right lesson.

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      It’s amazing that America somehow is destroying trust in itself from so many different directions right now, almost seems like a planned demolition, but I think it’s more of a chaotic tragedy of errors due to horrible judgement. It’s like the whole country got drunk on “American exceptionalism” (ie hubris) over the last 20 years, and here comes the hangover of the century.

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        It was absolutely planned, if not expressly planned for destroying trust. Planned for maximizing revenue, minimizing costs, for oppressing and dividing the population to exploit them and prevent a challenge to their corrupt systems, and so forth.

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          Thinking all of that can be controlled would fall under hubris IMO. The powers have done nothing but stoke resistance and rebellion against their hierarchies, or perhaps I’m just taking the bait…?

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            Reading too much into it. It is simply their self-interest (the wealthy) conflicts with your self-interest. They are just grabbing as much money as they can and creating as many distractions along the way to confuse and obfuscate.

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              I think you over-estimate the wealthy. These aren’t terribly intelligent people, they just have enough money to force what they want. The other commenter is correct, it’s largely just hubris and them believing they’re gods because they had the money things that aren’t terribly complicated but are otherwise out of reach for normal people. Everything they do that’s a trick is only clever to to those who are easily fooled. No one intelligent is confused, they just lack power to do anything especially with so many of the aforementioned fools supporting the rich.

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                I think this is it.

                I think, for example, that a lot of the conspiracy theories that exist around 9/11 being planned from the “inside” are the actual conspiracy that’s meant to mask the fallibility of the ruling class by creating stories about them being all powerful in the wake of a weakening attack.The one complex thing the rich do have the power to control is the stories we’re told. The stories we internalize establish our place in the world and convince us of our rolls. They project a virtual reality of illusions around us, through algorithms and media, because “control is an illusion” is a double entedre.

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              while fucking themselves over in the long term.

              they are proverbially pulling the copper from the walls so they can support the system as it is for a bit longer.

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          Also there’s a big part of this that is intentional sabotage and manipulation by a wide network of chaos-creators that mostly seem to lead back to Putin. When a former-KGB kleptocrat steals and controls everything in the world’s largest country and becomes effectively probably one of the world’s richest men, and then starts playing 4d chess with all the world’s other richest men, I guess it turns out you can probably cause a lot of chaos and quite possibly completely destroy the international global order.

          I’m willing to bet that is one of Putin’s goals, but it’s not his only goal, and just because he’s evidently accomplished it with gusto still doesn’t mean Putin is actually capable of accomplishing all his other goals of building or being part of any sort of new world order, because this chaos only destroys and tears things down. He’s got destruction down to a science, and I’m sure he thinks he can leverage that to create what he wants in the world, but he’s failed at that and will continue to fail. But he has proven he can fuck things up pretty badly for the rest of us, whether we want to admit it or not, so, personally I’m willing to give him credit where credit is due.

          The real question is, are we going to accept that what came before is irretrievably broken, and if we are willing to do that, what are we going to build in its place? Because with chaos comes opportunity, but those opportunities are few and limited. The chaos will continue, and the chaos can worsen. Significantly. If we’re going to turn this around, we have to be smart about it. There are a lot of paths that lead to very bad places, and only a few that have good endings. And you’d better believe that Putin and other forces of chaos are still going be trying to sabotage those too, even more aggressively as they realize their own dreams will never come to fruition.

          I think we’ve got to start by rooting out all the elements of corruption that have allowed this to happen, or else anything we try to build in its place will be built on quicksand. What exactly those are? I have a bunch of opinions, but that’s where the debate will start to happen, and I think we’re going to need to start having those conversations before we can really address this. We need to establish our philosophical foundations and values, agree that we all value human life, that we value all lived human experiences, and that all humans are created equal, and I think we can go from there to try to define and refine exactly what those things mean and how we’re going to implement those values into building a civilization that we actually want to live in and that other people want to live in too, where we can all agree on these things and find ways to pursue equality and happiness for all.

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        It’s not the whole country, it’s the perfect storm of the absolute worst people who spent the last few decades working to seize power combined with the death throws of late stage capitalism. The political and economic elite in America (and most other countries) have merged and corrupted each other beyond redemption, but the ultra capitalist systems of the US means there are few if any effective checks to their power. In a properly functioning country the government checks the power of corporations via regulations and laws and in turn is checked by the will of the public but in the US the incessant corporate propaganda has convinced a depressingly large chunk of the population that government regulations are inherently bad and that everything works better when corporations are free to do whatever they want. That combined with the absolutely blatant bribery and corruption in US politics means that corporations control the US government rather than the other way around.

        The whole thing worked for a little while while the corporations were at least pretending to somewhat care about consumers and things like anti-monopoly regulations, but now that Trump has shown the government is very loudly and publicly for sale to the highest bidder they’ve all gone mask off and are just doing whatever they want. The problem of course is that they’re also run by morons that either don’t see the cliff they’re all collectively racing towards or just don’t care because they’re planning to bail out with all the profits while the greater US economy burns.

        Ultimately this is the sprouting of the seed that was planted back in the 50s from an amalgam of the cold war anti-communism propaganda and the latent racism that was never properly dealt with following the civil war.

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      History shows Americans will.

      They trusted Microsoft after they were successfully sued by a DoJ (when it used to investigate corruption and monopolies) for being dicks, but David boies rejected breaking up the company in 2001.

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    Thats bad actually, the free advertising to linux was a good thing. Now Windows users will slip back into apathy.

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      Windows will continue to degrade as Microsoft fires more of its professional staff and turns to “Vibes Coding” for increasingly delicate systems development. They’ll keep pushing out the OS as a vector for unwanted third-party advertisements. They’ll keep ratcheting user control of the OS away from the hardware owners. And they’ll keep injecting bloatware into their applications and services.

      This isn’t the end of enshitification. It is a brief retreat and regrouping by a company that has invested tens of billions of dollars into the AI sunk cost.

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        I hope you’re right because I am enjoying Microsoft’s failures and I would like them to continue.

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          I wish these were proper failures. They’re such an entrenched monopoly, a whole lot would have to change before a $3.2T company sees any kind of tangible penalties.

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    “Microsoft is walking back Windows 11’s AI overload — scaling down Copilot and rethinking Recall in a major shift” For Now.

    Give them 6-8 months, they’ll shove it back in quietly in a way you can’t see it happening as easily.

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      Absolutely.

      This just means “We pushed our crap too fast and people noticed, so we’re letting things cool off slightly to quiet down the critics, and next time we’ll boil the frog more slowly.”

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        I think you’ve just neatly summarized, uh …

        … The world (such as we’ve incentivized it, anyway).

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          Sadly, yes.

          What it comes down to is that any product or service with a profit incentive will inevitably betray you, no matter how good or how well-intentioned it started out.

          Our only saviour is open source, self hosting, and federation.

          It’s why ownership rather than rental is the model we should all individually be pursuing.

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    I am kinda glad they went to shit so quickly. If it were slow, I probably would never have gone fully Linux. Now, I have all 5 of my machines free of corporate spyware. I am having fun again configuring and learning. Thanks microslop! I needed the push.

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      Which distro has been working well for you? So for I have Mint and Bazzite on my list to try. Also do you have any pointers?

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        I’m using mint and loving the experience so far. My kids find it easy to use and even my wife, who was a bit worried having to switch to a new environment, came to realise that it works just as well if not better then windows.

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        I’m using CachyOS currently. It’s fast, so far stable and suits me.

        Best pointer I can give you loads them all onto a USB with Ventoy and test them all on the live environment. What works for others may not work for you so go ham, break shit and have fun while exploring

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        I use Mint on my laptops and I know it is not for everyone, but I started with Debian stable on my gaming desktop with an ARC B580 and upgraded the kernel, installed drivers, and added packages one at a time so I could see the difference. Debian stable on my server for many years, so I have some experience.

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            Oh, I think Mint is one of the most accessible distros. I use Cinnamon desktop environment and that is very nice for new users. I was referring to starting with Debian stable, it is pretty baseline with no frills. Great for a server, but you will need to research what additional packages and repositories you want to get from it what you want. I just like how almost all software made for Linux has instructions for installing on Debian, that is not the case for most other distros.

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        Fedora workstation can be a real nice no trouble install.

        Personally love to add pop-shell extension to GNOME - if you use big monitors, it’s an awesome autotiler.

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          Good info as I have a huge monitor and has been part of my worry from a compatibility standpoint.

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    Understand that they’re not doing this because of user feedback; they’re doing this because shareholders got cold feet about the whole thing after the backlash (so indirectly it’s still down to user feedback, but not really)

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    It mostly looks like a mild slow down of user-facing release and rebrand of unpopular features.

    It is not a retreat. The marketing team is just trying to figure out how to reframe things that caused public backlash.