In short Republicans are going to screw over 23 million poor Americans because they don’t want Democrats getting political credit for helping them during an election season. And because our press is generally broken and afraid of calling a duck a duck, this is going to get dressed up as a genuine concern about wasteful spending by a party that’s long been a huge fan of no shortage of wasteful spending.

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    Meanwhile Biden wants applause for giving this same discount to one single battleground state…

    49 states lose it, one gets to keep it. And moderate Dems want us to congratulate them for it.

    It’s this kind of strategy that makes “moderate progress” an oxymoron. The result isnt just less progress, it’s a slow backslide because gains never outpace setbacks from conservatives.

    Moderates might not be the ones breaking shit, but when they’re the only other option “not breaking shit” isn’t good enough, they need to actually fix shit.

    If they can’t, maybe that’s a sign 30 years of the neoliberal experiment just shows that it doesn’t work and we need FDR style Dems again…

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      I feel like the current establishment wouldn’t allow an FDR-style candidate to succeed, they’re making too much money from protecting the status quo.

      But I’ll still grudgingly support them if Trump is the other option. I’ll vote progressive in my local elections, but as long as we still have a first-to-the-post election process, it’s always the lesser of two evils.

      Isn’t it the case that whoever wins this one, they’ll be the oldest president in US history? Gross.

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        Just vote in primaries.

        The DNC has to respect the result of primaries.

        So many people ignore primaries then complain they only have two choices.

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          The DNC has to respect the result of primaries.

          I’m guessing you weren’t around for the 2016 DNC primaries? There is no legal precedent that the results need to be respected and they have outwardly said as much.

          we could have voluntarily decided that, Look, we’re gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way. That’s not the way it was done. But they could have. And that would have also been their right… - DNC attorney Bruce Spiva

          DNC lawyers have argued and continue to argue that the Democratic Party doesn’t owe anyone a fair process. It has every right to disregard its own rules or interpret its rules how it wants because it is a private organization

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          Bruce Spiva, representing the DNC, made the argument that would eventually carry the day: … as he explained how the DNC worked, Spiva made a hypothetical argument that the party wasn’t really bound by the votes cast in primaries or caucuses. “The party has the freedom of association to decide how it’s gonna select its representatives to the convention and to the state party,” said Spiva. “Even to define what constitutes evenhandedness and impartiality really would already drag the court well into a political question and a question of how the party runs its own affairs. The party could have favored a candidate. I’ll put it that way.”

          source

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            That’s just lawyers being lawyers… Trump and Republicans have certainly argued far more absurd theories only for them to be shot down when put to test.

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      But FDR style Dems don’t collect big piles of soft money, and collecting big piles of soft money is now the one and only goal.

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      Yep, we’re supposed to fucking cheer every time they make deals with Republicans to give them more of what they want and backslide human rights even more…

      Every time they fail, we’re supposed to be happy that they were aspirational towards change, as if failed aspirations mean shit. (Pro-tip: they don’t)

      Like, we’re supposed to be overjoyed they’re supporting Israel when Israel is being run by their equivalent of Trump, Benjamin Netanyahu, who is absolutely a fascist.

      They’re literally, right now, making deals with a fascist, a fascist state, and acting like we’re supposed to be happy about that because Trump hates Jewish people or something?

      News is McConnell and Schumer are closer buddies than ever. It’s a Big Club and We Ain’t In It.

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      Never fails to amaze me how y’all can tie literally any news to how fucked up Democrats are. Like this article is literally about republicans being fucked up and yet somehow that was a prompt to say democrats are.

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        For those of us who have been following this, the FCC has been sounding the alarm about this for a while. It’s not as though there hasn’t been a budget that the Democrats were working on with the Republicans or anything recently that they could have, you know, fought for this.

        Oh wait, I forgot, they let the conservatives cut a bunch of stuff to let it pass. Thank the LAWD.

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        Really?

        Are you surprised when people criticize the police?

        Do you think we should only criticize the criminals, or that it’s ok to criticize police when they’re not doing enough?

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          As I said elsewhere, they don’t really understand that they’re actually asking us to be more like Trump voters and vote on the party line without questioning things.

          Are you surprised when people criticize the police?

          They probably are, and they’re probably shocked that after the George Floyd protests that people are upset that Democrats all over the nation are pouring more money into police departments than ever.

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      Democrats might not be the ones breaking shit, but they sure love throwing a bitch fit if you say out loud that Republicans are breaking shit.

      They desperately want people to see them as more than mid-right Republican-lites but all they do is roll over for Republicans, explicitly game the primaries against somebody who could win, and explicitly tell anyone left of Biden “fuck you we don’t need you.”

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        They just repeat what their donors tell them to keep their campaigns funded. They want less regulations or nothing changed because change is scary.

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        They’re not just gaming them…

        After Biden for his ass kicked in NH last time, the DNC said they weren’t first anymore.

        So the DNC stripped the whole state of delegates and Biden didn’t sign up to be on the primary.

        That’s something trump would do. And the media wouldn’t stop talking about how it’s an attack on democracy. Mostly because it is.

        Biden and the DNC do it tho. And it’s crickets

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          Democrats keep screaming at leftists that we have to vote Biden because Trump will sidestep congress and start rounding people up

          Oh you mean like how Biden sidestepped congress to fund genocide? Totally cool when our guy does it guys

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      "Biden has already achieved more in three years than most presidents in eight:

      The biggest investment in the middle class since Franklin Roosevelt,

      The biggest investment in infrastructure since Dwight Eisenhower,

      The biggest investment in health care since Barack Obama

      And the biggest investment in climate change and chip technology in history.

      Then there’s the biggest expansion of veterans’ benefits since World War II.

      The first gun safety law since Bill Clinton

      And with last month’s jobs report, the lowest US unemployment rate since Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were walking on the moon."

      https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

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        How the fuck hasn’t an admin banned that username yet?

        Edit:

        I’ve explained this to that account at least three times now, so I’m just blocking them and leaving the same evidence as the other times for everyone else.

        Yet, the most infamous records of intentionally spreading smallpox to Native Americans occurred in 1763 at Fort Pitt (present day downtown Pittsburgh). On June 24, 1763, William Trent, a fur trader commissioned at Fort Pitt, wrote in his journal after a failed negotiation between the British and the Delaware tribe. He stated that they had given the emissaries food, and as Trent wrote, “Out of our regard to them we gave them 2 Blankets and an (sic) Handkerchief out of the Small pox (sic) Hospital. I hope it will have the desired effect.”

        Later that year, the Delaware, Shawnee and Mingo Tribes laid siege to Fort Pitt. The fort’s commander wrote to his superior officer, Colonel Bouquet, that he feared the disease would overwhelm the fort’s inhabitants. After hearing of the outbreak, Bouquet’s superior officer, Lord Jeffrey Amherst, sent a suggestion from New York: “Could it not be contrived to send the Small Pox (sic) among those Disaffected Tribes of Indians? We must, on this occasion, Use Every Stratagem in our power to Reduce them.”

        Bouquet responded, “I will try to inoculate [them] with some blankets that may fall in their hands and take care not to get the disease myself.” It is important to understand that before Jenner’s safer practice of vaccination, the term inoculation specifically meant deliberate infection. While this method was the main way of producing mass immunity, it was also known to be just as likely to start an epidemic as to end one. The timing of an outbreak of the virus that struck the Ohio Valley later that year and lasted well into 1764 coincides very closely with the distribution of infected articles from Fort Pitt.

        https://asm.org/Articles/2023/November/Investigating-the-Smallpox-Blanket-Controversy

        And as that article states, the main reason for lack of evidence is Native populations had no written language and were stripped of their own languages later.

        So the only evidence we have, is when the people doing it flat out wrote down that they were doing it.

        And we’ve got plenty of examples of that.