• 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Nah, I’m not impressed by the unscripted remarks of a few extremist members of the Israeli government, most especially when that rhetoric does not match the facts on the ground.

    This war is about protecting Israel from an existential threat. Israel is deserving of that protection because it is a democracy. It’s really as simple as that. The Palestinian people have had 100 years to stop deploying terrorism as a method of achieving political ends and they have utterly failed. After October 7, enough is enough.

    I never once said anything about any civilians deserving this fate. However, it is not Israel that put them there. It is Hamas. Period.

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      10 months ago

      of a few extremist members of the Israeli government,

      Including the ones in charge of the security forces…

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        Wow, that’s very nice. It still doesn’t match the activity or facts on the ground.

        If the ground activity match the rhetoric of the three or four people you are talking about, it would look like this:

        • There would be direct military strikes on roads, power infrastructure, and water infrastructure without any pretext of tunnels or Hamas fighters being present;

        • There would be no humanitarian aid corridors;

        • There would not be phone call, text message, leaflet, and roof knock warnings before every bombing;

        • Every day there would be dozens or hundreds of videos of soldiers with rifles or tanks with machine guns opening fire on large groups of civilians;

        • The civilian death toll would be way, way higher than 1% of the population (1% of Gaza, 0.4% of all Palestinians) after four months;

        • The numbers of daily casualties would be going up and up instead of trending downward as they have been week after week.

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      10 months ago

      Yeah, because it’s absolutelly normal everywhere in the world for government ministers to deem a whole etnicity “human animals” and suggest nuking a neighbouring enclave and not be kicked out of that government before the day is over.

      Also the idea that a country with fighter jets, tanks and even nukes is under extential threat from a bunch of murders from with homemade rockets from a neighbouring country whose land they’ve been stealing for over half a century, would already be unbelieveable in the story of a Fantasy book, but trying to pass that as reality is really taking the piss out of everybody else.

      Go pull the other one.

      • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        It seems like you don’t know enough about this conflict to really have an opinion.

        The existential threat would be the organized and internationally funded terrorist organization operating with impunity within Israel’s borders under the ideology of Islamic Jihad.

        The terrorists here are also supported by Iran.

        Whatever hope Palestine may have had for a Tuesday solution ended on October 7 when when Hamas sold out its people and its country in order to do 1,200 murders.

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          10 months ago

          You mean the organization that Israel influenced the creation of through decades of mistreatment and mishandling of the situation? The same one Israel is on record saying it’s a good thing as it allows Israel to treat Palestine as a hostile state? Basically exactly what they’re doing now, killing anyone and everyone and just shrugging and saying “because hamas”?

          • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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            “Israel is on record”? It’s a country. A democracy at that, inherently made up of conflicting points of view and coalitions.

            1% of the population dead = “killing anyone and everyone.”

            You sound hysterical and emotional.

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              10 months ago

              Fine, Israel’s leader/government, as elected by its population, is on record. Does that make it better?

              1% of the population is a lot of people. That’s tens of thousands of lives cut short. Kids who’ll never grow up, families torn apart, etc. Should that not elicit emotion? There’s plenty of videos of children and unarmed people trying to surrender or otherwise being shot. Seems like anyone and everyone to me.

              Fun fact! Hysteria was originally thought to be a condition that only applied to women, hence the Greek root “hyster” for womb, as if that were the source of irrational emotion.