More important than the president or Congress, remember that you’re also voting for a ticket to the supreme Court, and that vote really really fucking matters.
Voting takes like 10 minutes
100% false. In the 2020 election in Mississippi, I had to wait in line for 2 hours. My wife had to call into the vet clinic she worked at to make sure she could to take a 3 hour lunch to vote even though it was 2 miles from where she worked. It was so disorganized and so slow.
I’m so glad I vote via mail now in Washington.
Voting is the minimum effort required of actual change the system. Any arguments about it being hard are here to stop more direct action.
It was so
disorganizedsabotaged and so slow.FTFY
I voted by mail in 2016 and my ballot never got counted even though it was sent weeks before the deadline. I now vote in person unless I have no other choice.
The great thing about Washington is that it’s opt out mail in voting. When you get your license, you register to vote at the same time, and they just send your ballot via mail. It’s nice!
That’s not the worst of it, people were waiting for over 10 hours in Georgia. All because the GOP rigged it so there’d be a shortage of voting locations. And they have the nerve to turn around and lie about the dems stealing the election. Absolute scum.
10 minutes might be the average, as even my backwards Republican controlled state has moved to vote by mail. I get the ballot, do a quick internet search on people or issues I don’t understand, and move on with my day in less time than that typically. As a bonus, mail ballots are far easier to audit and recount than those ridiculous electronic voting machines which print the voter’s choices next to the non-human readable QR code which is actually used for counting.
I don’t have experience in states which put up barriers or hours of waiting in line for in-person and mail voting, and I admire those who put up with that shit
If voting prevents literal murder then both parties obviously don’t stand for the same values.
… or one party is more efficient at facilitating murder
Yeah one party is so bad they repeal things like DoMA while the other literally persecutes LGBT groups
And, who was it that signed DoMA into law? Ah, yes, Bill Clinton.
LGBT became good business so the Democrats jumped on the bandwagon. I’m glad they are on the right side, but they are followers, not leaders. They support the disenfranchised when it benefits their larger cause of shoveling wealth to the top.
Was DoMA not a massive improvement compared to the situation before?
Improvement how? The whole point of DoMA was to kill gay marriage, and it worked until the court killed it.
The Democrats were being given credit for killing it but 1) the court killed it and 2) A Democrat signed it into law.
Sorry, I got DOMA and DADT mixed up
Ah, that makes a lot more sense.
Young people have not been as enthusiastic supporters of the Biden administration [even] before President Biden was elected. So what’s different about Gen Z generation in particular, who’s known to be politically active, also very diverse and caring about a variety of social issues, is that when they’re disappointed in what the government is doing or what the leaders are showing them, they’re willing to take the issue in their own hand and try to intervene, try to get involved sometimes by speaking up by their vote.
But by and large, they have voted more than other generations have as youth, regardless of how disappointed they say they are in the government. So if the past couple of elections’ trends hold, young people have been disappointed in the government and their elected leaders, but they voted.
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The big thing is that movements start from local political offices and can grow from there.
It can start with representatives, the rare senator, or even taking over of a party at the state level:
Participate in local elections, back primary candidates. Once the numbers are there at the nationwide level, we can push for a more representative electoral system.
We can push system that uses ranked choice voting like Alaska did. We can also increase the size of the house of representatives to better match the idea of representation the founding fathers had for us. It’s been nearly a 100 years that the house was capped at 435
The founding fathers had envisioned a house that grew with the size of the country:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Apportionment_Amendment
This laid the intent that we have 1 rep per 30,000 people and increase the constituents per rep by 10,000 each time the house reached another 100 seats.
Or in other words, the max constituents represented by each rep in the house should be:
30,000 + RoundedDown(Number of house seats/100)*10,000
So at 400+ seats (1 rep per 70,000) would make sense for a country of 28 million. Really, with the wording of the amendment and understanding that the examples lay out a mathematical formula for expanding the house indefinitely (but with more people per rep as it goes up) we would have over a 1,000 reps! In fact, some quick math shows that per the original intents, we would have 1700 reps with at most 200,000 constituents each. This would hold until our population reaches 340 million when we’d switch to 1800 reps and a cap per rep of 210,000.
There’s a current “Uncap the House” movement, however, I’m unsure of how much momentum they’ve been gaining.
To see how the number of constituents has grown per member over the years:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_congressional_apportionment#Number_of_members
In other words, we’re being shorted almost 1300 reps!
Pretty hard to just hope that all these tankies are bullshitting about knowingly allowing Trump to fleece America while they sit at home blaming democrats for getting him elected.
I blame selfish uncompromising Boomers for electing Biden in the 2020 primaries.
Thanks for proving my point. Enjoy your video games While the rest of us try and keep democracy alive for you to have something to keep complaining about while doing nothing.
I’ve been voting for 20 years bud. I’ve phone banked, canvassed and donated. I voted for Biden in the 2020 general because I wanted to give the claim that we could “push Biden to the left” a chance. It was a lie.
I will be voting in the upcoming general election as well. Just not for Biden or Trump. And when Biden loses I’ll hear you asking “how could this happen??” instead of just acknowledging reality: you need to compromise with leftists if you want our votes. Otherwise you’re going to lose to fascists for a second time.
It’s deeply ironic the use of an Icelandic singer in a meme to justify participating in the performance of the Theatre Of The Vote in the, unlike in Iceland, far from Democratic American Duopoly system.
Unironic would be to use Putin or some well known Russian figure.
Also, she’s an anarchist so I’m not entirely sure this is even the kind of advice she would give.
I love björk so much she’s so awesome
Now you’ve made me curious. The depths of the interwebs reveal that she says she casts an empty ballot, no reasoning given. Iceland doesn’t have compulsory voting.
Staying in Iceland: Jón Gnarr is also an anarchist and ran for office. Then, I’m an anarchist and the opposite of anti-electoral, if nothing else it’s necessary to combat depoliticisation and protect liberal democracy as the stopgap measure it is. Fascists won’t stop voting to try and capture the state least you can do is cancel out their vote by voting non-fascist.
I’m not even sure there’s many anti-electoral anarchists around, actually arguing against voting instead of simply personally not voting (which lots of people do for various reasons), practically all the arguments you hear from that side is egg-headed theoretical moralising without reference to praxis.
both parties ultimately stand for the same values
This is an extremely privileged take. Yes, both parties support corporations and capitalism. However, one party also supports the eradication of people they don’t like. This is a very significant difference.
Both parties support the eradication of people they don’t like.
Who do the Democrats want to eradicate? Republicans are already very well-documented.
Palestinians…
Are they Americans? I’m sorry if it’s not the most sensitive take. But I vote for people that don’t DIRECTLY want others to die. Giving money is not as linear as they give weapons = they pull the trigger.
What did you just type?? Seriously, I’m including to screenshot your message and send it back to you in 5 years so you can realize how insane your current viewpoint is
It’s not insane to think taking care of our own house is a bigger priority than the rest of the world.
Let me think. Bombing Yemen Destroy Laybia Bombing Syria Bombing Iraq Bombing Palestine Bombing Yemen …
I think there is a pattern their but I can not tell exactly who they want to eradicate…
Laybia? ROFL!!
I can assure you nobody destroyed Laybia.
It got a little roughed up but it’ll be alright.
The ultra wealthy.
Leftists yes, not democrats though
Be a lot cooler if they did
Leftists aren’t democrats.
Its also an extremely privileged take to presume that financial destitution can’t be just as crushing. We all face eradication, and trying to sideline economic issues for issues of human dignity will lose on both. It’s divide and conquer politics. We are either unified, or we’re not.
Reminder that voting for Biden or Trump means you endorse genocide 😎
Reminder that you are clueless.
Thanks person that defends the IDF all over Lemmy.
I just point out stupidity. There happens to be a lot coming from Palestinian supporters. Not that they shouldn’t support Palestine, just that they shouldn’t be so damn stupid.
And you just happen to defend IDF war crimes every step of the way.
I wish they’d defend it in a smart way lol all the day is say 3-6 words per sentence, call it an argument, call themselves smart, and finally they fuck off when you actually begin a discussion with them.
They’re not interested in learning anything but it is necessary to debunk them as to stop others from believing their propaganda.
Stupid in unison is just stupid in stereo.
Prove my point, why don’t you …
Leftists are going 3rd party, the implication that they don’t vote is stupid.
Perhaps, but pissing away your vote on a third party in a FPTP system is functionally no different to not voting.
I wonder if Trump hating conservatives are being told the exact same rhetoric. “Trump sucks but if you vote 3rd party you’re just giving Biden the election!”
Their lack of principles and assumption that everyone (including themselves) is lying means it’s far easier for them to stay on message (though the libertarian party is still a thing).
The closest widespread parallel I’ve seen from the right is more along the lines of “Well we know Trump is a scumbag, but the system is broken, and he’ll shatter it into little pieces.”
Gonna have to switch to Approval Voting and proportional representation (also using Approval Voting) if you want to get rid of the two party system.
Not sure about approval voting - I’m familiar with preferential, but nuance aside, I broadly agree with you.
Yeah pretty much anything is better than first-past-the-post.
Voting does not take 10 minutes! First, Republicans are making it harder to vote early or by mail and closing polling stations so you have to wait in really long lines on a work day. Second, you should be taking the time to really research and understand everything on your ballot before committing to votes.
idk whats worse, having an uncropped reddit watermark or an uncropped ifunny watermark
More Bjork memes please
I thought I could organize freedom
sees Tokenboomer post
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Thanks fam. The block is always an option.
No I won’t go on a date with you!
Can you believe this guy
who are you talking to?
Sorry that was mean. You are tokenboomer ofcourse. Lemmys favorite propoganda pusher.
Or you know, actually try to pressure the Dems into running a different candidate when Biden will be a guaranteed loss.
