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A thread will only live on the front page of Hexbear for about 4 hours if it has a high enough score and active comments. Every time you bump a thread it resets the “posted” timestamp (effectively) so it appears higher in the feed, but as time passes, that timestamp decays and time is added to the refreshed timestamp. At most, you should only bump a thread every 5 minutes to 10 minutes. If that is happening consistently in a thread, then Upvotes become more important in terms of the internal rank generated to sort the list when using the Active sort. Pumping a thread within only seconds of posting does not impact the rank of the post. Bumping the thread constantly with only seconds between comments also doesn’t impact the score. The post moves down the list the “older” it is, and bumping it resets the timestamp on the post to the most recent comments timestamp (plus a decay value).
To summarize:
- Post the thread
- Bump 5 min later
- then bump every 5 to 10 minutes
- get more upvotes to rank higher
- after 4 hours your post will never hit the front page.
You can bump but please don’t make
so many that this occurs.Roger that, thanks for the clarification
Doing something that you know will break federation with other instances is pretty clearly not allowed, so I’m gonna go with a ‘no’ on this one.
Whats wrong with bumping mutual aid? Infinite bumps to those in need.
computers really don’t like infinite, and they don’t like large numbers much either, for relative values of “large”
Hexbear got defederated? (idk what that means) for breaking the lemmy software I think with how much stuff we bump and reply to
Just means people from whatever instance that defederated us won’t be able to see our posts or comments and we can’t see theirs
Is it from bumping mutual aid or just from the mega threads?
It was from bumping. The issue was the depth of the reply chains (up to 200), not the total number of comments
I dunno; this is probably a question better suited for !hexbear@hexbear.net or !fediverse@hexbear.net
I remember the thread you’re referring to from a few days ago and from what I gathered, we were defederated because those bump posts were causing issues and I don’t think we’ve ‘fixed’ the issue but…
@CARCOSA@hexbear.net @Alaskaball@hexbear.net demand answers from one of them
Edit: Actually upon further investigation it does look like this will be fixed in the next patch according to CARCOSA so…
And also fwiw apparently a single comment spaced out over 10 minutes keeps a post in active sort longer than multiple but
In trouble with who? Does someone get to tell us how we want to run things here?
If some other instance has an issue with seeing people in need that sounds like a them problem to me.
EDIT: After reflecting on this I was needlessly aggressive and jumped to conclusions before speaking. I’m leaving this up as a reminder to do better even though I want to just delete this embarrassing mistake it and pretend it didn’t happen.
At least one instance was forced to defed from hexbear because of a bug triggered by very deeply threaded posts, presumably because people were trying to bump a post by replying 4+ times at once (something that, apparently, doesn’t even work). It’s not about the visibility of the posts, it’s about the behaviour itself being hostile to other instances on a technical level… And pointless.
If having a problem with knowingly literally crashing every federated instance’s Lemmy server every time someone adds a comment is “trouble” then yes, there is trouble
