• M137@lemmy.today
    18·
    17 hours ago

    I keep seeing people say “this is AI” about images and video that are extremely obviously photoshops and other “manual” edits. And that’s fucking scary, IMO.
    How are they so unable to differentiate a shitty edit from AI? It’s completely different. No AI image or video I’ve ever seen has looked like a bad photoshop, CGI etc. The way AI stuff looks has a different thing to it, even really bad AI. And I fucking hate AI of all kinds, just to be clear.

    • entwine@programming.dev
      2·
      2 hours ago

      How are they so unable to differentiate a shitty edit from AI?

      It’s just that most people don’t know what you mean when you say something is “AI generated”. With context clues, they tie back to terms they’re already familiar with, and are associated with fake computer generated imagery (“that’s Photoshopped”).

      I think most people have never even seen Adobe Photoshop, the actual software. Like, literally never laid their eyes on the gray window, the layers and tool panels, etc, yet they’ve still thrown the term “photoshopped” around.

    • DillDough@lemmy.zip
      1·
      2 hours ago

      Is it that they can’t differentiate them or that they don’t care to? For instance; I play online RPGs, most people make tons of art for their characters, businesses, etc. majority of the time it is AI slop but sometimes it’s just shit edits…I don’t care for either so I’ll just dismiss anything with shit filters or unnatural construction/orientation as AI slop and move on because it saves time and brain space…oh fuck I’m turning into Dr Cox in my old age…

    • yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca
      4·
      7 hours ago

      Most people can’t tell the difference between the two, probably because they don’t know how either of them works. And just like others have said, it’s the same thing with CGI. I was watching Avatar 2 the other day and one of my friends said something about the graphics like “oh, that’s probably AI”, and I angrily replied “do you have any idea of how many dozens, if not hundreds of people painstakingly worked on this movie’s CGI??”

    • Jinn@sh.itjust.works
      7·
      15 hours ago

      Don’t think that’s what’s happening.

      I suspect it’s similar to my coworkers who refer to everything that uses any kind of networking as “Wi-Fi.”

      • LiveLM@lemmy.zipEnglish
        5·
        13 hours ago

        The other day I watched a movie at the theaters and when a very obviously CGI animal showed up on screen I heard people going “It’s AI”.

        So yeah I agree, people just use the names they’re used to I suppose

    • lugal@sopuli.xyz
      6·
      17 hours ago

      Nah, they’ll add AI features and charge you double per month (if that didn’t already happen. Sometimes I confuse the timeline)

        • restingOface@quokk.auEnglish
          4·
          15 hours ago

          That looks real useful. One major thing I cannot figure out is how to add an outline to text. I can add text onto an image and change the color/font/size of that text, but I cannot find a way to outline that text. Which is pretty important most of the time I want to add text on an image.

          • Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            2 hours ago

            How I do it: Make text, create a new background layer, make the same text but slightly bigger in the colour you want your outline to be, align background text as needed. Save as .png and import into new image if you’re looking to add the outlined text to somewhere else (though I suppose you can just merge layers, I do my crap in fits and spurts so I often prefer having the little pieces as discrete files so it’s easier to come back to it. Also I’ve fucked up and merged when I probably shouldn’t have a LOT).

            Takes some futzing about for sure but that’s part of the fun for me.

            Edit: Super shitty outline done just by doing the same font size bolded in black. Can obviously be done much better but you’ll get the idea.

          • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
            2·
            14 hours ago

            I haven’t found a way to directly add an outline frame to the text but you can go to tools->shapes and set it to outline no fill and manually do frame the text

          • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
            3·
            17 hours ago

            The interface is a bit strange at first but it is a genuine multiple layer image editor it is great.

            A tip, make sure to confirm/complete a tool’s action before you switch to a different one, it is easy to switch off a tool while it is still “previewing” something.

  • Zachariah@lemmy.world
    31·
    1 day ago

    I could afford to call it photoshopped when it was a one-time fee. When they changed to a subscription model, I had to switch to piracy.

    • jacksilver@lemmy.world
      11·
      23 hours ago

      Yeah, I think we may keep photoshopped in the vernacular to describe real photos that have been edited.

      There is a big difference between edited and completely fabricated.

    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
      6·
      21 hours ago

      They actually work in tandem now. And honestly, some of the generative stuff in Adobe products I find genuinely useful. Specifically I really like the AI noise reduction in Lightroom. It allows people with less-expensive cameras to have better end results.

        • Obi@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          19 hours ago

          Can you clarify what you mean? This is the kind of trivia I’d normally know about but I fail to make a connection, a quick search also didn’t yield more info besides that it was supposedly whispered to the creators by a potential publisher, and the obvious reference to a “shop” for photos like a workshop.

          • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            19 minutes ago

            A photo shop is what you used to take your film or pictures to to be enlarged or touched up. This process became known as photo-shopping and the software was named after this. This is according to my artist grandma who died recently and my graphic design professor years ago.

          • too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
            11·
            18 hours ago

            It’s not true. It was called photo manipulation before Photoshop.

            Adobe has actually complained about the term photoshopping because it can lead to genericization and loss of their trademark.

        • too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
          11·
          13 hours ago

          That’s absolutely not true.

          Edit: Okay, eat shit downvoters. Please provide a source that confirms the term photoshop was used before 1992.

      • Jiral@lemmy.org
        1·
        21 hours ago

        Does it work similar to the noise reduction on flagship phones? Then it does create a feel of artificialness when looking closer, with a tendency for artifacts.