Liberalism isn’t on the left right spectrum at all. It has some leftist principles, but it has capitalist principles. Also, the Democratic leadership and at least 3/4 of national Democrats aren’t even liberal. No liberal could stomach the Democratic primary circus, or sign off on mass surveillance or genocide. The Democratic establishment is neoliberal, which is to say that they are anarcho-capitalist with a liberal facade.
None of this describes AOC, but it’s true that AOC has been partially assimilated to establishment politics and is way too interested in having a comfortable relationship with the establishment Democrats.
Liberals cannot be “moved” left - all you’re going to end up with is a liberal that is now better equipped to cosplay as “leftist” while they de-radicalise the left and rob it of any relevance.
You don’t have to believe me - there is nothing new about this.
“The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative. Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the Negro’s friend and benefactor; and by winning the friendship, allegiance, and support of the Negro, the white liberal is able to use the Negro as a pawn or tool in this political “football game” that is constantly raging between the white liberals and white conservatives.” - Malcolm X
Simply exchange the term “Negro” for leftist, and you expose the manner in which the liberal has been undermining and sabotaging the left even before liberals took hands with their fascist spawn to crush the Sparticist Uprising in 1919.
This user has never moved an inch to the left in their years of being on Lemmy. Might as well abuse them until they leave leftist spaces at this point.
Thanks. I ought to be used to it by now. It’s so common here. I’ve probably blocked 20 people for acting like this. And I try to avoid blocking anyone who acts even somewhat sane.
They are so out of touch with reality. It’s just insane to be so enraged at something like 99.999% of humans for not agreeing with their exact beliefs. It’s not good enough to believe in human rights, universal healthcare, that capitalism is toxic, etc. If you say one thing against them, you are a “liberal” which means a million different things but in a context like this I can only imagine it meaning “anything >.1% to what I consider my right”.
also a “liberal” as if that carries any meaning whatsoever.
Dangle that slender thread of hope, liberal - the days where your fundamentally oligarchic ideology was simply hidden away as normality has been crumbling away for a while now.
The left has allowed right-wing ideologues to monopolise liberal-hatred - there’s no need to discuss the irony of it all, since we don’t have all day - but that’s something that can be fixed.
After all, the Palestinians made a gigantic hole in one of liberalism’s holiest of cows - Zionism - back in 2023 and by doing so showed just how fragile liberal ideology truly is.
Perhaps we should start making some holes of our own, yes?
So do tell, liberal… what did you do for your oligarchy today?
They went into a leftist community, started a fight, said liberalism is on the left and the only left, and when proven wrong said it was gatekeeping.
Liberals are the colonists of the fediverse. They spread the propaganda the rich fed them, then say anyone who doesn’t believe it is paid for. Like their mind was paid for.
No one did or said any of that. You are so hateful one would have to question how you could possibly embrace any social policy that would help other human beings.
Oh no, I’m so evil by not supporting people defending genocide, woes me. I wouldn’t defend the neoliberals, I’m just as bad as the people commiting social murder!
Get on your real account and tell me that. 6 months of nothing until Tracy gets banned? Lol.
Any leftist who thinks AOC is a leftist is just a liberal cosplaying as a leftist.
Anyone who gatekeeps leftism so hard may as well switch sides
TrickDacy is the poster child for shitlibs.
No one gives a flying fuck about your fake leftist bullshit. Tagged you “agitator” long ago for a good reason
“It’s the liberals who are the real leftists”, lmao
Liberalism is now the only true left, anything saying otherwise is gatekeeping
Liberalism isn’t on the left right spectrum at all. It has some leftist principles, but it has capitalist principles. Also, the Democratic leadership and at least 3/4 of national Democrats aren’t even liberal. No liberal could stomach the Democratic primary circus, or sign off on mass surveillance or genocide. The Democratic establishment is neoliberal, which is to say that they are anarcho-capitalist with a liberal facade.
None of this describes AOC, but it’s true that AOC has been partially assimilated to establishment politics and is way too interested in having a comfortable relationship with the establishment Democrats.
“All those anarchists who actually are left are fake, only my capitalist liberalism is the only left”
Okay shitlib, go vote for some genocide you “leftist”
We’re not gatekeeping leftism, liberal… we are defending it from it’s vilest enemy - you.
Couldn’t find a way to prove me any righter than that huh? I mean, it’s impressive.
Correct, liberal. You are, indeed, right. No less right-wing than any fascist, in fact.
So do tell, liberal… what did you do for your oligarchy today?
Insulting people wont make them move further to the left. It does the exact opposite.
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Theres a term for that. It is called Black Propaganda.
Liberals cannot be “moved” left - all you’re going to end up with is a liberal that is now better equipped to cosplay as “leftist” while they de-radicalise the left and rob it of any relevance.
You don’t have to believe me - there is nothing new about this.
Simply exchange the term “Negro” for leftist, and you expose the manner in which the liberal has been undermining and sabotaging the left even before liberals took hands with their fascist spawn to crush the Sparticist Uprising in 1919.
This user has never moved an inch to the left in their years of being on Lemmy. Might as well abuse them until they leave leftist spaces at this point.
Based honestly, I’m down for making users who defend the actions of Vote Blue Genocide No Matter Who get off from here.
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sorry about that guy.
Thanks. I ought to be used to it by now. It’s so common here. I’ve probably blocked 20 people for acting like this. And I try to avoid blocking anyone who acts even somewhat sane.
They are so out of touch with reality. It’s just insane to be so enraged at something like 99.999% of humans for not agreeing with their exact beliefs. It’s not good enough to believe in human rights, universal healthcare, that capitalism is toxic, etc. If you say one thing against them, you are a “liberal” which means a million different things but in a context like this I can only imagine it meaning “anything >.1% to what I consider my right”.
But seriously tough. Are you a liberal?
Eh it just proves why leftists can never win jack shit. When no one is ever good enough, nothing is.
Sad because you can have great motivations and ideas but if you never get the power to change things it’s all for naught.
Dangle that slender thread of hope, liberal - the days where your fundamentally oligarchic ideology was simply hidden away as normality has been crumbling away for a while now.
The left has allowed right-wing ideologues to monopolise liberal-hatred - there’s no need to discuss the irony of it all, since we don’t have all day - but that’s something that can be fixed.
After all, the Palestinians made a gigantic hole in one of liberalism’s holiest of cows - Zionism - back in 2023 and by doing so showed just how fragile liberal ideology truly is.
Perhaps we should start making some holes of our own, yes?
You have no idea what I believe and you never will know, fake tankie. And I won’t need to hear your pathetic whining again after now 🚫
Run, liberal.
They went into a leftist community, started a fight, said liberalism is on the left and the only left, and when proven wrong said it was gatekeeping.
Liberals are the colonists of the fediverse. They spread the propaganda the rich fed them, then say anyone who doesn’t believe it is paid for. Like their mind was paid for.
Well… it is what they’re good at, after all.
No one did or said any of that. You are so hateful one would have to question how you could possibly embrace any social policy that would help other human beings.
Oh no, I’m so evil by not supporting people defending genocide, woes me. I wouldn’t defend the neoliberals, I’m just as bad as the people commiting social murder!
Get on your real account and tell me that. 6 months of nothing until Tracy gets banned? Lol.