It’s not as bad as it might appear at first glance.
In the website the sources seems to be from 2023, just after the october attacks.
At the time I felt the same way, but Israel just would not stop, so I gradualy changed opinion as I just saw more and more pointless violence and dispicable behavior from Israel.
I’m confused. What do you mean “would not stop”? Israel’s response was genocidal mania from the beginning. What was the limit of collective punishment on civilians you were ready to support? Was it measured in weeks or in dead children?
Propaganda can mean you don’t have a sense of scale compared to a conceptual strawman defense you’ve been fed your whole life with vague undefined terms. “Terrorism must face retribution? Yeah that makes sense. Wait, how many did you say??” It took someone in my family seeing a graph comparing the number of dead Israelis to dead Palestinians by date back in late 2023 to question and drop the “right to defend themselves from terrorism” ideology.
To those of us who were completely out of the loop about the Israel/Palestine conflict before 2023, which is most people, the first thing we heard about the entire thing was October 7. So, for a lot of us, the initial response to the conflict was “Why did Palestine do this!?” until shortly thereafter where we all found out why and went “Oh. Nevermind, go Palestine!”
Ok. I can’t imagine being completely unfamiliar with the Israel-Palestine conflict, one of the most contentious and bloody conflicts on-goingfor the last 70 years. But I’m from Ireland where it is centred, and ignorance is not always someone’s own fault.
There is so much shit going on these days, combine that with having to deal with a new, stressful job, that my thoughts were mostly:
Stupid idiots, Israel will go absolutely insane on you after this.
And I was right, the first few weeks, showed that my prediction was very accurate.
I did however expect that after a month or two, a stalemate would develop, and proper negotiations would start.
You know, like a normal conflict.
But Israel kept killing and destroying, far, far, far beyond the point where Palestine would be any sort of threat, to the point that it became completely absurd.
It felt like watching a strategy game being played, and Israel wiping out any trace of Palestine to win.
There was never a specific limit being reached that made me change my mind, it was a sense of how the retaliation became illogical from the point of view of achieving a normal victory, it went beyond that, far beyond that, that was when I flipped.
TL;DR:
I flipped once Israel’s goals was shown to be illogical from a normal military response.
It’s not as bad as it might appear at first glance.
In the website the sources seems to be from 2023, just after the october attacks.
At the time I felt the same way, but Israel just would not stop, so I gradualy changed opinion as I just saw more and more pointless violence and dispicable behavior from Israel.
I’m confused. What do you mean “would not stop”? Israel’s response was genocidal mania from the beginning. What was the limit of collective punishment on civilians you were ready to support? Was it measured in weeks or in dead children?
Propaganda can mean you don’t have a sense of scale compared to a conceptual strawman defense you’ve been fed your whole life with vague undefined terms. “Terrorism must face retribution? Yeah that makes sense. Wait, how many did you say??” It took someone in my family seeing a graph comparing the number of dead Israelis to dead Palestinians by date back in late 2023 to question and drop the “right to defend themselves from terrorism” ideology.
To those of us who were completely out of the loop about the Israel/Palestine conflict before 2023, which is most people, the first thing we heard about the entire thing was October 7. So, for a lot of us, the initial response to the conflict was “Why did Palestine do this!?” until shortly thereafter where we all found out why and went “Oh. Nevermind, go Palestine!”
Ok. I can’t imagine being completely unfamiliar with the Israel-Palestine conflict, one of the most contentious and bloody conflicts on-goingfor the last 70 years. But I’m from Ireland where it is centred, and ignorance is not always someone’s own fault.
There is so much shit going on these days, combine that with having to deal with a new, stressful job, that my thoughts were mostly:
And I was right, the first few weeks, showed that my prediction was very accurate.
I did however expect that after a month or two, a stalemate would develop, and proper negotiations would start.
You know, like a normal conflict.
But Israel kept killing and destroying, far, far, far beyond the point where Palestine would be any sort of threat, to the point that it became completely absurd.
It felt like watching a strategy game being played, and Israel wiping out any trace of Palestine to win.
There was never a specific limit being reached that made me change my mind, it was a sense of how the retaliation became illogical from the point of view of achieving a normal victory, it went beyond that, far beyond that, that was when I flipped.
TL;DR:
I flipped once Israel’s goals was shown to be illogical from a normal military response.