• root
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    this is actually such a big problem in tissue culture

    no one should be able to copyright LIVING BEINGS

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      1 day ago

      ironically copyright laws as they are today are cancer, maybe they should copyright copyright so that it all just eats itself and dies

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      But then if you can’t copyright it companies wouldn’t invest money in it since it wouldn’t be profitable. That’s kinda the whole point of copyright, so that there’s an incentive for innovation. Why invest in R&D when you can just let your competitor do it and immediately steal it from then?

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        Copyright doesn’t create incentives for innovation it creates incentives for stagnation. It’s a guaranteed profit window for a static solution. Competition is what breeds innovation as you need to have the best product for its cost to capture market share. As copyright is inherently an anti-competitive practice only there to minimize risk it reduces innovation in favor of stable profits. Just because r&d costs money it doesnt mean that supply chains and production are handed to competitors for free. Its just a tool to minimize risk for venture capital because those who lobbied for it wanted to protect their assets from risk exposure and did so at the expense of consumers and innovation through lobbying. Removing it wouldnt stop people from creating solutions or trying to invent new products. Those who do the r & d always have a leg up as they have the research available to them for tweaking there process or final output that a competitor would not.

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        17 hours ago

        why would anyone buy from someone who just copied it instead of made it?

        and money has ruined innovation

        are you suggesting that we would just stop innovationn without copyright?

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        22 hours ago

        “steal it” you cannot steal knowledge

        copyrighting living beings is bad

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          18 hours ago

          You’re not stealing knowledge, you’re stealing someone else’s time, effort and money. There’s a reason there’s IP laws everywhere.

          What then do you suggest as the alternative? Or is your suggestion just to stop innovation?

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            17 hours ago

            “no ones gonna do it if they cant exploit it for money” - very serious business human

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              13 hours ago

              Yes, this is exactly what happens. Lone humans just can’t do much on their own, you need money to fund you, and money doesn’t fund anything that isn’t going to make them more money.

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                  7 hours ago

                  You think? Because the vast majority of innovation (beyond the first few) was done by men who either had money (or priviliege, which in that time was the same thing) or men who were paid (or rewarded in some way) by those who did, resulting in the same thing. People who had no money/privilege and were not paid/sponsored did not have time to innovate, they had to spend their day trying to survive.

                  If you were “paid” by your king/warlord or whoever, you think they allowed you to just go do the same for their enemy right after?

                  Besides, I think we can all agree that innovation has been incredibly fast since capitalism came along, though whether it’s a cause or correlation is debatable. If your argument is that they came up with fire without copyright, then I’m afraid it’s not a very good one.

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                12 hours ago

                hey so how about we got rid of the profiteering glutton in between and gave the money directly to the researchers? :)

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                  7 hours ago

                  This could work, but would require a big societal change that goes beyond the level of “copyright bad” going on in this thread.

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                12 hours ago

                laur would like a word with you

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            17 hours ago

            free is good

            “time effort and money”

            im sorry but innovation will be sustained without copyright

            no one is just gonna go “I cant make obscene amounts of money on this, better not do it at all” if they actually care about it

            free is good only hurts the rich