cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/8915892

(original article in Swedish that reported this)

Posting this because I hadn’t heard about it before and I’m probably not the only Mullvad user here, so might as well.

I’m not Swedish, but going off NATOpedia, it seems like the party is basically reinventing fascism from first principles:

The party claims to stand for a “class-conscious populism” which according to party leader Markus Allard takes inspiration from marxist ideology and unites the “productive” classes of society against the “Transferiat”, with the “Transferiat” being a term coined by Allard to describe the classes of society that lives off transfers that are a net negative for society such as those who, despite having an ability to work, live off social welfare benefits, as well as those who work “made-up services”[…]

The party differs from modern day left-wing parties by seeing the working class as co-dependent with people working in enterprise and business and instead sees the classes that “live off transfers”, as specified, as a large economic net-negative and an obstacle for a functional society.

visible-disgust Their ideology is nonsense fake-marxist revisionism to redirect anger at capitalism and turn it against immigrants and people who need social welfare (though they do back some generally left oriented social policies, their main thing appears to be racism)

Even if you’re comfortable with funding this, it still begs the question of just how trustworthy Mullvad actually is.

I guess this still beats any of the dozens of Israeli VPNs that definitely spy on you, but it’s not great emilie-shrug

    • trackball_fetish
      52·
      21 days ago

      Huh? That’s an extremely odd comparison. Citizens of a country are not inherently fascist just because their leader is, but if they hold the same ideology they can go fuck themselves.

      I didn’t say anything about the other co founder, but let me put it this way… The company is owned by both of them. One of them made a half million donation. By proxy it makes the other person look bad. Its as they say, bad for business. My overall point is that I would not trust my privacy with this company as one half of the owners have access to the prod environment, your logs and clearly wants to harm others based on his political views.

      I’m really not sure what you’re playing devils advocate for. Are you worried that people will assume you hold those views? Do you own stock in the company? Are you worried about restriction of speech? Genuinely I’d like to know.

        • trackball_fetish
          43·
          21 days ago

          I asked you a few legitimate questions and just as it always is, you lost the intellectual race.

          Go fuck yourself, Nazi sympathizer.

            • trackball_fetish
              1·
              20 days ago

              Again, you have dodged every question I asked, you absolute anthropomorphic dunce cap of a person. Try not to forget how to breathe anytime soon.

        • whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml
          11·
          20 days ago

          If you’re looking for a replacement and don’t actually need the privacy/anonymity then ivpn might be a good choice. You can screw it up and set up an account that can’t possibly by as safe as mullvad but if you’re careful and know what you’re doing you can also get damn close to it. Theoretically.

          But if it matters it’s probably time to reup mullvad with a new account id and cash through the mail instead of whatever they refunded you through.

            • whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml
              1·
              20 days ago

              If you can tolerate using crypto instead of cash, ovpn has Singapore servers and that’s close.

              If you could be careful with your account information and send cash you could probably make proton work, they got lots of servers where you need them. You’d have to resist the temptation to add some newfangled service though.

              Ngl between your reply to me and others you sound like the kind of person who should stick with mullvad.

              I only recently started using the mullvad application as opposed to configs and maybe it’s because I was on configs for so long or maybe it’s mullvads app quality being better than average but I’ve been impressed with it across all platforms.

                • whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml
                  2·
                  20 days ago

                  Oh, I keep windscribe for general purpose unimportant stuff. They have servers all over the place. No clue how well they hold up, only ever used em for geofencing bypass with scripts.

                  They’re running a sale on whatever their pro service is and that gets you nz servers.

                  I can fire up their app in a little bit and see how it works, what distribution are you running?

                • jmp242@sopuli.xyz
                  1·
                  19 days ago

                  Personally, if I was worried enough about various tracking, I’d want to use the configs with known vetted third party FLOSS apps vs their own built app. For instance, one of the concerns with SurfShark in those sites is the app isn’t vetted and has some custom analytics. Using openVPN plus configs kills app level analytics.

                  IDK how much I ought to or should not trust any VPN provider, but for what I need, SurfShark has been great and pretty cheap, though for other reasons I’m a bit disappointed no port forwarding. I would use other tech than commercial VPNs for “deep” privacy.

                • whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  20 days ago

                  Oh I meant that you seem to be concerned with the actual functionality of the tools and service from a safety perspective and need servers in place other than where the ppl who want to go stealth mode and load hacking tools are.

          • Meowsey@lemmy.world
            1·
            20 days ago

            What is wrong with iVPN? They are also no logs and take cash as far as I can tell. Them and AirVPN seem like solid alternatives.

            • whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml
              1·
              20 days ago

              I have used ivpn in the past. I currently use air for port forwarding stuff.

              There is nothing “wrong” with ivpn. You can, if you’re careful, avoid setting up an account, associating an email, choose a limited set of services and pay with cash and get, theoretically, what you get with mullvad.

              The difference is that with mullvad it’s much harder to do something you didn’t know was a problem. That’s not a thing that’s “wrong” with i. Lots of people expect to be able to log in to their account and recover their password with an email and use a bunch of additional nice apps and services like what i offers. That’s not wrong.

              I said theoretically above and above that because i has not been under the same degree of scrutiny as mullvad. So it’s kind of like the veteran choosing a dented shield over a newly built one because “i know this one has stopped a blow”.

              Air is… a piracy vpn. An eagle eyed user is expected to read between the lines to understand that and understand what it means.

    • kossa@feddit.org
      1·
      20 days ago

      being a nazi doesn’t automatically mean that the country you live in is a nazi country

      True

      or that the company you co-founded is a nazi company.

      False

      Maybe not if you have a hundred co-founders…but if you have one co-founder…you probably just founded a nazi company ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        • kossa@feddit.org
          11·
          20 days ago

          “one co-founder” means there’s at least two founders. And if one of them is a nazi, they founded a nazi company.

            • kossa@feddit.org
              1·
              20 days ago

              Idk, Mullvad seems to have two founders with 50% shares. 0.5 is rounded up, so logic dictates it is one full nazi company, when one of the founders is a nazi. The co-founder is at least complicit.

              I started three companies with co-founders. I know them, they’re not nazis. It is not hard to figure the political views of your peers when you start a business together ¯\_(ツ)_/¯