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    I don’t care about your specific interpretation, if you didn’t follow it at all the old testament wouldn’t be in your fanfic book. The book never mentions abortion again anywhere else in either the new or old parts, therefore your book says that abortion is just fine and dandy.

    That’s not how medicine, or the real world work. Only your fanfiction.

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      the “fanfiction” has been proven real via many miracles

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        Prove it. None of those miracles have stood up to scientific inquiry. Science is real. If we lost all knowledge and had the global resources reset back to the stone age, we would reinvent science. We would also reinvent religion, the multiple hundred belief systems worldwide prove that. It is highly unlikely that either my religion, or yours would emerge the same way again.

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          The Documentation

          On August 15, 1996, a discarded consecrated Host was placed in water according to standard protocol. Instead of dissolving, it developed reddish tissue and grew.

          • The Archbishop who ordered the investigation was Jorge Bergoglio — now Pope Francis
          • Dr. Ricardo Castañón Gómez, a former atheist, coordinated the scientific analysis
          • A tissue sample was sent to New York for blind testing
          • The primary examiner was Dr. Frederick Zugibe, a secular forensic pathologist and cardiologist at Columbia University
          • He was not told where the sample came from or what it had been

          The Witness

          Zugibe analyzed the tissue and identified it as human heart muscle — specifically from the myocardium of the left ventricle near the heart valves.

          • He found intact, active white blood cells — cells that typically disintegrate within 15 minutes outside a living body
          • Professor John Walker (University of Sydney) later confirmed intact white blood cells in the same tissue six years after the event
          • The blood type was AB, matching the Lanciano relic and the Shroud of Turin

          When Zugibe was finally told the sample came from a communion wafer that had been sitting in water for three years, he stated: “How and why a piece of a human heart is still alive, sitting in distilled water, is totally beyond my comprehension.”

          https://nacn-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/Zugibe-scanned-reports-26-3-05-and-15-3-05-RON-ack.pdf

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            That’s not a miracle. There’s some black woman whose cell cultures are still alive despite her dying in the '70s. Her family is suing to try to get some of the vast fortunes that have been made with actual medicine, based on the woman’s DNA.

            That’s just something that can happen in certain cell lines.

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              yeah in a specialised laboratory enviroment not water

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              how do you explain the Cardiac Tissue?

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                I don’t and don’t have to. I’m sure an actual scientist in that field can, and probably several have already done so. It’s certainly interesting enough to warrant looking into.

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                  and the AB blood type matching with the Shroud of Turin and the Relic of Lanciano?

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                    Every scientific analysis of the shroud has proven it to not be what it has claimed to be. Take your fake bullshit, and shove it. I don’t care what you fakers fake. I certainly am not going to be convinced by someone who doesn’t know history.

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                  Cardiac Tissue (live) just cant start growing out of nowhere on a piece of bread randomly in water where it is supposed to dissolve logically, that is a miracle

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                  can you give me a “scientist” that has done so?

                  a researcher in that field looked into it, and said it was live cardiac tissue

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            https://apcz.umk.pl/TiCz/article/view/TiCz.2018.028

            On October 12, 2008, during Mass in Sokółka, Poland, a consecrated Host accidentally fell to the ground and was placed in water to dissolve — the standard liturgical procedure. Instead of dissolving, it formed a red, blood-like substance.

            The Metropolitan Curia of Białystok commissioned an independent scientific analysis. Two professors of pathomorphology at the Medical University of Białystok were selected:

            • Professor Maria Sobaniec-Łotowska (Department of Medical Pathomorphology)
            • Professor Stanisław Sulkowski (Department of General Pathomorphology)

            They examined the sample independently.

            The Witnesses

            Both professors concluded that the sample was human cardiac muscle in the agony of death — myocardial tissue showing segmentation and fragmentation of muscle fibers at the intercalated discs, a pattern consistent with a heart under extreme duress.

            But the finding that elevates this case above all other Eucharistic miracles is what they saw under the electron microscope:

            The human heart tissue was physically, inextricably interwoven with the fibers of the wheat bread.

            It was not a piece of flesh dropped onto a wafer. It was not blood smeared on top. The bread and the flesh shared the same cellular matrix. At the microscopic level, baked wheat fibers and living human cardiac tissue were seamlessly spliced together.

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      not mentioned = fine???

      what is this logic?

      “You Shall Not Murder”

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        Nope. The very book states that killing a woman who is less than six or seven months pregnant has a lesser punishment than killing a woman who is pregnant more than their arbitrary timeline.

        The only time it directly addresses abortion it tells you to do it before that arbitrary deadline, therefore the book doesn’t think abortion is murder.

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              its somewhere bro trust me bro just trust me

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                It’s your fucking shitty book. Not mine. I took the time to learn why it’s logically inconsistent, and outright bigoted. I got the fuck away from you cultists and I still have to deal with you. Read your own damn book, or don’t. I don’t care. You have more than problem my point that Christians don’t know how to not shove their shit ass beliefs onto everyone else.