• Fluke@feddit.uk
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    5 days ago

    A far more prominent example would be what Russia has been doing with Crimea for decades.

    • SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml
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      5 days ago

      I don’t even think that’s an especially good example.

      Crimea has a predominantly ethnically Russian, and Russian speaking, population. The Russians aren’t replacing Russians with Russians. Russia did annex Crimea in likely contravention of international law, which we might think is bad. But that doesn’t make it settler-Colonialism.

      Now, Russia has been adopting out Ukrainian babies in its occupied territories to Russian families, something Putin is wanted by the ICC for, so that would be a much closer example.

      But even that, I feel, isn’t as clear cut an example as Palestine or Western Sahara. Russia hasn’t been putting Ukrainians onto reservations or anything like that. Doing so would compromise the national identity of the Russian Federation as a multi-ethnic state. An identity it relies on for domestic legitimacy. Russia just isn’t framing its invasion of Ukraine as a war of ethnic extermination. They’re explicitly framing Ukrainians as a kind of junior partner in a conception of a “greater Russia” that can stand up to The West.

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        Crimea has a predominantly ethnically Russian, and Russian speaking, population.

        … Because of colonization…

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Crimea

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1783_Russian_annexation_of_Crimea

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Khanate

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_the_Crimean_Tatars

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dekulakization

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Russian_annexation_of_Crimea

        But regardless of that all, just cause they speak the same language doesn’t mean fuck all? That’s a very goofy and immature and frankly probably racist way to look at racial demographics

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        Russia has framed the invasion of Ukraine in ethnic terms, saying that the areas invaded are Russian because the Russian language is spoken there. At the same time they’re phasing out the speaking of Ukrainian in occupied areas.

        Belarus under went similar policies and there’s a name for it:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification

        From that page:

        In 2020, a set of amendments to the Russian constitution was approved by the State Duma[67] and later the Federation Council.[68] One of the amendments enshrined the Russian nation as the “state-forming nationality” (Russian: государствообразующий народ) and Russian the “language of the state-forming nationality”.[69] The amendment has been met with criticism from Russia’s minorities[70][71] who argue that it goes against the principle that Russia is a multinational state and will only marginalize them further.[72] The amendments were welcomed by Russian nationalists, such as Konstantin Malofeev[73] and Nikolai Starikov.[74] The changes in Constitution were preceded by “Strategy of government’s national policy of Russian Federation”, issued in December 2018, which stated that “all-Russian civic identity is founded on Russia cultural dominant, inherent to all nations of Russian Federation”.[75]

        This is part of the Russian World doctrine:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_world

        The concept of the “Russian world” is linked to Russian neo-imperialism.[8] President Vladimir Putin established the government-funded Russkiy Mir Foundation to foster the idea of the “Russian world” abroad.

        Russia is not what it used to be, Dugan got to Vlad, and he’s not as interested in a multicultural Russia right now. He’s a Nationalist Traditionalist, no longer trying to keep up with the west. Now he’s trying to re-write history.