Lemmy should have shined when the API kicked in, but we had a number of users being shouty ass hats that probably helped to drive users away. Fortunately they seem to have quieten down since for one reason or another, but Lemmy adoption doesn’t seem to have increased again yet - maybe one day.
Ultimately the super loud leftists were super annoying. I’m not saying their message or stance was good/bad or anything, I’m just saying that most folks don’t come to places like Lemmy or Reddit to talk political theory. Those lemmygrad hexbear types can’t get through a post about a bump on a log without talking about politics and social theory.
Conservatives would get the same opinion from me but they are far fewer here, so I have no notes on them.
I didn’t take any notice of which instances they were from. The people I’m thinking of didn’t talk about politics - they were shouty about other things.
They haven’t calmed down, they’re just defederated from most major instances when you add up all the instances they defederated from and all the instances that defederated from them.
I didn’t say you said they did. My point is that it means they’re one sign up away from being everyone else again, they would just need to join another instance that’s federated with the majority.
If you’re not that technologically inclined, or not a developer, you’re not going to know what all the yammering about APIs are about, and how it affects your experience.
The moderators on r/Blind protesting might be all well and good, but it’s not much of a reach for someone to not see how them being impacted would affect your user experience.
Same for all the shouting about power users, apps, and moderator tools. That’s not a concern for most users, especially the ones who either already use Reddit on the computer, or just downloaded the Reddit app.
There wasn’t a good, clear, short, coherent message, nor much of a sustained, co-ordinated effort to explain the issue, not what it would mean for users that aren’t that technologically inclined, or engaged.
It didn’t really help that the protest got sabotaged by moderators who did the protest, and continued using the site while ostensibly protesting. Couple that with poor communication, and it got received as much ado about nothing by a portion of the user base.
Especially since you had Reddit users who didn’t want to move to another site. It certainly didn’t help that Lemmy is still very immature when it comes to moderation tools/automation, and that if you’re a newcomer, the whole server/instance thing is rather unintuitive if you’re used to the “central hub” type system of Reddit.
Lemmy should have shined when the API kicked in, but we had a number of users being shouty ass hats that probably helped to drive users away. Fortunately they seem to have quieten down since for one reason or another, but Lemmy adoption doesn’t seem to have increased again yet - maybe one day.
Ultimately the super loud leftists were super annoying. I’m not saying their message or stance was good/bad or anything, I’m just saying that most folks don’t come to places like Lemmy or Reddit to talk political theory. Those lemmygrad hexbear types can’t get through a post about a bump on a log without talking about politics and social theory.
Conservatives would get the same opinion from me but they are far fewer here, so I have no notes on them.
For what’s it worth, I’m glad the shouty ones were leftists because otherwise I wouldn’t even give lemmy a chance.
I didn’t take any notice of which instances they were from. The people I’m thinking of didn’t talk about politics - they were shouty about other things.
They haven’t calmed down, they’re just defederated from most major instances when you add up all the instances they defederated from and all the instances that defederated from them.
When did I say they calmed down? They just got blocked by everyone who cares to. Instance blocking is the tits.
I didn’t say you said they did. My point is that it means they’re one sign up away from being everyone else again, they would just need to join another instance that’s federated with the majority.
They thrived on dogpiling and baiting and that doesn’t work when they are separated.
It was also loud without much good communication.
If you’re not that technologically inclined, or not a developer, you’re not going to know what all the yammering about APIs are about, and how it affects your experience.
The moderators on r/Blind protesting might be all well and good, but it’s not much of a reach for someone to not see how them being impacted would affect your user experience.
Same for all the shouting about power users, apps, and moderator tools. That’s not a concern for most users, especially the ones who either already use Reddit on the computer, or just downloaded the Reddit app.
There wasn’t a good, clear, short, coherent message, nor much of a sustained, co-ordinated effort to explain the issue, not what it would mean for users that aren’t that technologically inclined, or engaged.
It basically ran into the whole average familiarity issue.
It didn’t really help that the protest got sabotaged by moderators who did the protest, and continued using the site while ostensibly protesting. Couple that with poor communication, and it got received as much ado about nothing by a portion of the user base.
Especially since you had Reddit users who didn’t want to move to another site. It certainly didn’t help that Lemmy is still very immature when it comes to moderation tools/automation, and that if you’re a newcomer, the whole server/instance thing is rather unintuitive if you’re used to the “central hub” type system of Reddit.