• Farid@startrek.website
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    2 days ago

    But they didn’t say anything pro-AI. At most they were anti-anti-AI mob, which is just reasonable, as is with any “mob”. And I read mob here as mindless parrots that keep repeating talking points and hating for the sake of conformity.

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      Being anti-anti something is being pro-something. That’s the beauty of the double negative.

      Also that’s just a very pro-AI user, so the intent can be inferred

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        Being anti-anti something is being pro-something.

        Blatantly reductive. “Anti anti AI mob” means to be against the mob that is against AI, not to be for AI. Regardless of whether or not AI is a net harm, moral panics certainly are. You can oppose the moral panic while being for, against, or neutral towards AI generally.

        If you need to fuck around and misrepresent your opponents’ arguments, you’re not doing it right.

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        You’re conflating two different somethings. Anti-AI mob is not the same as AI. Being against mob mentality doesn’t make you inherently pro AI.

        It’s possible to be pro or anti mob mentality and AI in various different combinations.

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        I’m anti anything mob. The fucking groupthink on certain issues is real.

        I’m also anti people who make shit up and then try to sell it as a long strings of “inferences.”

        And after having AI shoved down my throat at work for two years while my teammates get laid off, I’m pretty anti AI too. At most I have direct experience with it that teaches me it has some uses, like summarization.

        You’re full of shit. You’ve been told. And you know it by now. But you’ll probably bleat on with more of the same because it’s all you know how to do. Proceed, I guess.

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            Brave showing, bravo. I’m glad someone came out of the woodwork to illustrate the monomaniacal mob behavior I was talking about. You did just perfect.

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              Hmm I don’t remember mobbing anyone. All I did was reiterate what the man himself said, in the face of you trying to spin it as more pro than it was.

              When the guy says his AI use was causing him problems and he regrets it and wants to make a change, I believe him. Simple as.

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        That’s… Not how any of that works?! You can be anti chat bot llm, anti anti ai mob hater, and pro llm science and research bot.

        There’s more to the tech then just the chat bots the anti ai mob dipshits all seem to think of when llms come up.

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            anti-anti-AI ≠ pro-AI, it assumes there’s only anti-AI and pro-AI and nothing in between.
            And the wording was clearly about the anti-AI mob as opposed to people who understand the dangers and benefits of AI. It’s similar to the difference between a Gamer™ and a gamer.

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                  You think that a persons established pro-ai bias is not related to the inference of the bias of their ai-related comment?

                  I… disagree. That would be directly related.

                  And it’s of course not ad hominem in the slightest because an ad hominem is an attack on a person instead of an argument. That’s not happening here.

                  Your comment reads like a high schooler who just had their first class on argument and logic and hasn’t quite got a firm understanding of either yet.

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      You’re on Lemmy… any statements about AI, Musk, trump, McConnell, etc that aren’t over-the-top against them will be met with downvotes.

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        Okay but why would anyone be anything but over-the-top against anything on your list?

        I mean, like, everything you listed is dog shit.

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          You’re asking, why shouldn’t we strive to have a realistic nuanced perspective in the face of a moral panic? Seriously? You’re being an NPC.

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          That’s what I keep fucking asking, Like how can anyone with half a brain be okay with any of them?

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          Because sometimes in life there are nuances and it is possible to mention one of those topics in a neutral manner, but the absolute hostility held here against anyone who tries to have a conversation beyond “_____ sucks ass!” is exhausting.

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            This is not one of those times. I don’t want to have a conversation with someone who thinks neutrally about any of those topics.