• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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        3 天前

        Abuse: for when centrists can’t defend their only policy.

        You need to update your script. Criticizing biden isn’t helping trump win. The election is over and genocide won like you want in all cases.

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          Yeah, you think I’m a centrist, you definitely need to take your meds. I probably criticized the support for Israel earlier than you and more vocally than you.

          You decided the world is black and white, so you’re even attacking people who should be your allies because you think they’re the wrong flavor of progressive

          You’d rather let a Republican win than an insufficiently pure Democrat. And your purity check isn’t even about their real actions and words, but your vibes and if you feel they’re a part of your little tribe.

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            wrong flavor of progressive

            This asshole is calling genocide progressive.

            I probably criticized the support for Israel earlier than you and more vocally than you.

            And he’s going around claiming Biden and Harris were anti genocide, and flat out lying about casualty numbers to defend them.

            insufficiently pure Democrat

            Genocide is sufficiently pure to him.

            And your purity check isn’t even about their real actions and words

            Says the genocide apologist claiming Biden and Harris were anti genocide.

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            You literally said I was helping trump win by criticizing the genocidal shit you worship after the election was over.

            I don’t believe for an instant that there is anything in this world that you want but the extinction of the Palestinian people.

            Your “take your meds” gaslighting is what you use instead of actual arguments because your position is indefensible.

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              You have lost your fucking mind. I’m arguing for preventing harm and saving lives and that’s what you say is indefensible.

              If you actually care the solution is to support better candidates, not to campaign on behalf of Republicans by giving them ammo, not discouraging others who are trying to rally support for the better candidates, etc.

              You have decided no other approach than yours is acceptable, and therefore everybody who makes you feel uncomfortable must be genocidal murderers. But the problem is that feeling of discomfort is caused by your own failure to understand the world. That’s your fault, not mine. Go delete your account, that’s the fastest way you can improve the world right now.

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                I’m arguing for preventing harm and saving lives

                It’s neat how “preventing harm” always involves letting through the harm centrists want.

                not discouraging others who are trying to rally support for the better candidates, etc.

                There is no “better” when both available candidates support genocide. There’s only “worst” and “second worst.”

                You have decided no other approach than yours is acceptable

                Genocide is unacceptable. Not to you, though.

                and therefore everybody who makes you feel uncomfortable must be genocidal murderers.

                Not everyone is comforted by genocide like you.

                But the problem is that feeling of discomfort is caused by your own failure to understand the world.

                I understand it fine. My opposition to the only thing you stand for, have ever stood for, or will ever stand for is not a lack of understanding.

                Go delete your account, that’s the fastest way you can improve the world right now.

                Telling me to kill myself in veiled language so it’s acceptable to the moderation team. Neat.

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                  Who the fuck is giving centrists what they want here?

                  You’re sinking the candidates who oppose genocide and then you fucking brag when things get worse “because at least I’M not responsible” when you share responsibility for giving Trump a chance to make it worse

                  Well I’m sorry for understanding how the world works!

                  You saw the deaths increase under Trump and feel comforted that the deaths have an ® label.

                  You told yourself that means you’re against genocide. Newsflash, it’s not. When you take actions that increase deaths while knowing your action will increase deaths, you’re pro-death.

                  And you knew, because you were told.

                  That means the good conscience you have right now was comforted by your own actions contributing to genocide. You’re just pretending you have no responsibility for it, again, because they have a different label.

                  By insisting you oppose everything I stand for, you’re declaring alignment with fucking Trump.

                  You’re fucking hallucinating. You can’t accept you’re wrong so everybody who calls you out must be evil. You can’t imagine a rational compassionate person would want to act different than you, so they must be lying. Anybody telling you to stop must be a hateful person wanting you dead. And you feel comfortable lying about them in response because you’re a fucking tribalist little shit that examplifies the horseshoe theory, you hold the exact same beliefs as MAGA types but with some fake leftist label on it. You think your actions are good by definition because you took them and my actions are bad by definition because I’m not in your tribe. That makes you a piece of shit.