The supposed neo-nazi lingo being “Zionist Occupied Government (ZOG)”,
What is your argument? It was coined by Nazis, is used overwhelmingly by Nazis, and exists as part of a broader malicious representation of Israel and the “World Jewry” simply controlling governments rather than the reality of the imperialist bourgeoisie benefitting geopolitically from Israel and therefore supporting them.
It’s a very clear example of Nazis trying to hijack antizionism for the purpose of antisemitism and their race war ideology.
Yeah, and let’s also “reclaim” racial slurs by just using them oblivious to the actual social context of the terms. Come the fuck on.
So don’t let them take over accurate terms like this?
First of all they coined it, so they aren’t taking it over, secondly it is inaccurate because the government is not zionist-occupied, it is natively zionist. The term in its most direct denotative sense is already predicated on a whitewashing of the Nation and attacking Israel on the basis of being a foreign “other” rather than a genocidal appendage of the very same empire.
This is an absurd hill to die on. Just admit that it’s a bad term to use and go for trying to minimize the significance of someone’s choice to use it. I would still disagree but that’s a place where there’s a trace of actual discussion and not just you sticking your fingers in your ears.
So do you believe that the US government is secretly controlled by jews that are conspiring to eliminate the white race? Because that is what the term was coined to describe.
If you think that is accurate you can fuck right off.
Lol who said that. Zionists occupied. No one said jew, you did. You somehow conflate the two because of neo-nazis. Instead of focusing on why he even was using the term you are stuck in a circle talking about an acronym.
ZOG = Zionist Occupied Government, a term coined by a neo-Nazi named Eric Thomson in 1976 to describe a Nazi conspiracy theory that jews had taken over the US government and were going to exterminate the white race. I get that most people on this site are probably not old enough to know all the ins and outs of OG Nazi terminology but it definitely doesn’t just mean Zionist.
The term antisemitic was coined by an antisemite? So what now ? You can’t use the term antisemitic either to refer hate against jews and other sematic groups?
Why do you want so badly to use a neo-nazi dogwhistle? Also apparently pointing out something actually anti-semitic (not anti-zionist but shit like ZOG which is an actual anti-semitic dogwhistle) gets you called a Jewish supremacist. What even is your point here?
No but the phrase Zionist Occupied Government was specifically coined to mean that. It was not coopted or appropriated or hijacked by Nazis, it is an explicitly Nazi phrase coined by Nazis. You can just say Zionist. If you use the phrase ZOG or defend its use I just assume you’re a crypto-Nazi.
What is your argument? It was coined by Nazis, is used overwhelmingly by Nazis, and exists as part of a broader malicious representation of Israel and the “World Jewry” simply controlling governments rather than the reality of the imperialist bourgeoisie benefitting geopolitically from Israel and therefore supporting them.
It’s a very clear example of Nazis trying to hijack antizionism for the purpose of antisemitism and their race war ideology.
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If you continue to use or defend the term ZOG, you will be banned. We do not talk like Nazis here. Consider this your warning.
I believe that you are fully capable of understanding the historical context behind ZOG. You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?
Yeah, and let’s also “reclaim” racial slurs by just using them oblivious to the actual social context of the terms. Come the fuck on.
First of all they coined it, so they aren’t taking it over, secondly it is inaccurate because the government is not zionist-occupied, it is natively zionist. The term in its most direct denotative sense is already predicated on a whitewashing of the Nation and attacking Israel on the basis of being a foreign “other” rather than a genocidal appendage of the very same empire.
This is an absurd hill to die on. Just admit that it’s a bad term to use and go for trying to minimize the significance of someone’s choice to use it. I would still disagree but that’s a place where there’s a trace of actual discussion and not just you sticking your fingers in your ears.
So do you believe that the US government is secretly controlled by jews that are conspiring to eliminate the white race? Because that is what the term was coined to describe.
If you think that is accurate you can fuck right off.
Lol who said that. Zionists occupied. No one said jew, you did. You somehow conflate the two because of neo-nazis. Instead of focusing on why he even was using the term you are stuck in a circle talking about an acronym.
Jack with two 88’s is defending neo-nazi terminology? Wow. I am shook.
ZOG = Zionist Occupied Government, a term coined by a neo-Nazi named Eric Thomson in 1976 to describe a Nazi conspiracy theory that jews had taken over the US government and were going to exterminate the white race. I get that most people on this site are probably not old enough to know all the ins and outs of OG Nazi terminology but it definitely doesn’t just mean Zionist.
The term antisemitic was coined by an antisemite? So what now ? You can’t use the term antisemitic either to refer hate against jews and other sematic groups?
Why do you want so badly to use a neo-nazi dogwhistle? Also apparently pointing out something actually anti-semitic (not anti-zionist but shit like ZOG which is an actual anti-semitic dogwhistle) gets you called a Jewish supremacist. What even is your point here?
No, I don’t. Zionists don’t mean Jews, and they aren’t trying to eliminate the white race. I’ve never expressed this opinion.
No but the phrase Zionist Occupied Government was specifically coined to mean that. It was not coopted or appropriated or hijacked by Nazis, it is an explicitly Nazi phrase coined by Nazis. You can just say Zionist. If you use the phrase ZOG or defend its use I just assume you’re a crypto-Nazi.