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      Sad day that you can’t use “But Trump” as an excuse to prevent Genocide since Biden is already doing the Genocide.

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        I mean, the choice is between “guy who supports the current genocide” and “guy who will actively accelerate the current genocide”. I guess you could protest by not voting/voting third party, but that’s functionally indistinguishable from just not giving a shit.

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          If Biden’s polling numbers drop hard enough then there won’t be any need to choose between “Genocide 1 and Genocide 2” because he will stop doing Genocide.

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        So you agree that neither of the two options will have any effect on making things better in Palestine, good. Since that’s cleared up, the choice is simple, as Trump is objectively the worst option, so voting Biden is the only reasonable move in November.

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          Biden will not get votes if he does not stop his Genocide.

          You supported his Genocide it’s your responsibility if Trump wins.

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            Nope, Biden and Trump are the only options. Neither of them will do shit for the Palestinians in terms of making things better. The only option is to vote strategically to keep the worst guy out, and that’s Trump.

            Anyone who does anything in the general besides voting for Biden bears responsibility if Trump wins. That’s just a fact of the two party system we have.

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                Doing that also lets Trump in. Actively standing in the way of a fascist takeover by Trump requires showing up for Biden at the polls.

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                    I’m sure all the LGBTQ+ folks, Muslims, and racial minorities of America who will be immeasurably harmed by another Trump presidency would disagree.

                    What an unconscionably privileged position to consider voting for Biden to stop Trump to be not with it.

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              Anyone who defends the madness of pledging support to Biden while he commits Genocide actively endorses Genocide.

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                Neither Biden nor Trump will do anything about making Israel stop in Palestine, and Biden will be better than Trump overall as president. Refusing to vote for him is a privileged position which essentially throws gays, trans, Muslims, minorities, and the entire American democracy under the bus to satisfy your pride. It’s time to grow up.

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                  Biden will do something when he starts feeling the heat of losing enough votes.

                  You can try to downplay and ignore the issue. Tell the kids that they “need to support Genocide like real grown ups”. But that’s not going to work.

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                    Acting like a grown-up means voting strategically, especially when the other option is a fascist. Staying home to pout, or voting third party which amounts to the same thing, is an infantile position which reeks of “I got mine, fuck everyone else” privilege.

                    You might weather a second Trump term okay due to your privilege. Plenty of folks won’t be so lucky, and if you refuse to vote for Biden in November, you’re just as guilty as the MAGA conservatives who voted for Trump if he wins.