You don’t get a pass because your 13 year olds of choice are japanese and drawn characters. It’s creepy as fuck and I am judging you for it.

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    16 days ago

    Then you would need to point me to a specific instance of sexualization for me to comment on it.

    There is a prevalent problem of western viewers seeing “3000 year old dragon in a child’s body” and immediately sexualizing it (“it’s just an excuse for …”) when the Japanese audience doesn’t view it that way. That’s what I’m trying to address.

    If you have a specific character in mind I’m happy to help distinguish whether it is truly degenerate (certainly possible) or just a cultural misunderstanding of the intent.

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      16 days ago

      I haven’t watched anime in quite a while (with the exception of CP Edgerunners, which does have a character that is sexualized and appears as a child, because of mods I guess). I can’t name any specific ones off the top of my head, and I do not want to search for them. You know they exist though. Saying “you need to point out specific ones” is trying to put it all on me. It’s not like this is some small thing that has only been done a few times.

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        I genuinely can think of only three off the top of my head that are overtly problematic. I’m not arguing that they don’t exist. We all know they exist. But people tend to talk like it’s the majority. That every time there’s a mismatch between mental age and physical appearance it’s a perverted excuse to creep on kids.

        And it’s just not. It’s always easy to find examples of the worst things a medium has to offer. What I’m asking is for people to show me the things that make them think it’s the rule, not the exception. Because I could sit here and diatribe for hours about every instance I know of with a “old being in young body” trope but I know that just come off as making excuses. So I want to address your specific concerns.

        EDIT: And it’s kinda funny when you bring up Edgerunners, since that’s a property managed by a Polish company with some insanely grotesque hypersexualized content that is deeply fucked up before even getting to the anime.

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          I don’t see anyone saying it’s the rule. They’re saying that it happens, and it’s excused. You apparently agree with that, and that it shouldn’t happen I assume too?

          As for CP/Edgerunners, sure. I don’t think hyper-sexualization is an issue, but fine. The show is anime though, made in Japan I believe. It uses tropes that are from anime, like the character that looks like a child, which aren’t from any of the other Cyberpunk media. The whataboutism here is totally off topic. It doesn’t excuse anything. It’s purely just “but they do other things!” This topic is not about hyper-sexualization. It’s about sexualizing child characters.

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            15 days ago

            and I rarely see people excusing it outside of active degenerate communities where these specific people congregate.

            like, I’m not gonna pretend these people don’t exist, but you have no idea how frustrating it is getting lumped in with these disgusting people because they, like most westerners, look at something fundamentally non-sexual and then sexualize the fuck out of it.

            As for CP2077, I’m more concerned how it does things like glorify rape fantasies. That whole franchise is about showing the worst of what humanity has to offer. So I kind of write off everything in there as “yeah, it’s supposed to be fucked up and gross”

            p.s. literally just had to respond to someone else in this comment section who said I was making a bad faith argument because “30% of anime is pedo shit” so there are definitely a big group of people out there saying it’s the rule.

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      16 days ago

      Well that’s a bad faith response if I’ve ever seen one. Just pretending anime isn’t like 30 percent pedo shit?

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        15 days ago

        lol ok buddy, 30%? How many have you watched vs being shown shit by people like you pushing a specific narrative about it?

        Do I need to run down the Top 50 anime of all time for you, so you can do some actual math instead of posting ignorance?