Lawmaker: TikTok must “sever relationship with the Chinese Communist Party.”

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    8 months ago

    Bull, if it was ‘just about gathering data’ they’d go after Zuck and Musk too.

    They’re amaerican. They already have them.

    Further, if Russia were considered ‘mostly white’, NATO wouldn’t be trying to encircle and exterminate them. Try again.

    Dude, if NATO wanted them destroyed they wouldn’t be as passive as they have been. It has nothing to do with race. There are plenty of Russian/Caucasian people in the west.

    Further bull, America’s done everything in its power to keep forms of slavery in play; specifically pipelining the minorities they used to keep as chattel into prison slavery instead.

    I agree this is happening, but is it because of race or because it’s an easy excuse. You can’t tell the difference.

    Four hundred years of slavery, genocide, resource extraction, ignorance of sovereignty, and extrajudicial murder says what now? Tell your handler I said hi.

    Show me a nation that doesn’t have exploitation and/or genocide in their past. There isn’t one. All nations exploit. Governments are corrupt. I’m not arguing the US is good, I’m arguing all nations are bad. You are just willfully ignorant. Whatever government you support (Russia presumably, by your instance?) it has exploited people at some point in time at least. It almost certainly is even now, or someone else would be in power.

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        8 months ago

        i hate when liberals do this, the “i hate all countries” thing. America invades another country every 3 years on average and this is just as bad as China, a country that hasn’t invaded anyone since 1979? What is this reasoning. This is like those Protestants who say lying about your homework is an equal sin as murdering someone

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        8 months ago

        I guess this was shared on hexbear or lemygrad. I’ll see it soon enough from there I guess.

        Why does China not allow all western companies into their ecosystem? Is it because of race? Obviously not. It’s about power and control, and I’m not dense enough to think otherwise.

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        8 months ago

        Alright. Explain how China having their own ecosystem is better. I know what they’re all doing. You’re the one saying any one is doing it because of a race thing.

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          8 months ago

          Yup, I’m saying it; and I’m not humoring ‘debate’ on the topic from anglos. ‘Debating’ you and yours is kin to trying to debate a sinkhole. Empty air flung down an indifferent, almost-smug pit. Any way out from under the thumb of you and everyone like you is only a good thing achieved by anyone who manages it, and I pray I live to get to watch your system crumble under your impotent fingers.

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            8 months ago

            You came here dude. I didn’t go to you to “debate”.

            I pray I get to see it crumble too. However, I’m not dillusional enough to think it’s just one thing that needs to crumble.

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              You keep flooding my inbox with white bullshit like you know better than me; you’re trying to debate. I don’t debate the kinds of people John Brown would’ve shot. You already showed your hand when you tried to sidestep past America’s historical, continued, and unbroken malfeasance over the past four hundred years.

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                8 months ago

                Stop being a “debate bro” here and acting like you aren’t. You came here. You are not the one being flooded. Look at how many people are replying to me with the same crap every time.

                I didn’t sidestep US history at all. The US has racism literally written into its constitution. It was useful to those in power, but many have writting saying they thought it was wrong and evil and black people were fully people. They still used it. That’s worse than just racism. It’s pure evil.

                However, I’m not blinded by hatred over a certain group. China has an entire seperate internet ecosystem. Is it because of racism? China has a long history of racism too. Obviously it is not, and its about power and control. The same logic is true for the US. They’d do the same thing if it were Russian owned and Russia is primarily white like the US. Assuming it’s racism makes you ignore the actual issues.

                Now find a new thread to be a debate bro in. Leave me alone.

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      8 months ago

      I agree this is happening, but is it because of race or because it’s an easy excuse. You can’t tell the difference.

      things have multiple reasons.

      Like when a forest fire happens, it doesn’t happen ONLY because the weather was dry and ONLY because the weather was hot. It was a combination of both of them.

      Likewise, when anglo-crackers pull this shit, it’s not ONLY because they’re racist, or ONLY because they want to personally control it. It’s because they’re racist AND want control, mostly so they can use it to propagandize people into being more racist.

      Generally, when a certain event happens, it has multiple causes! Single cause phenomena are very rare in organic systems!

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        8 months ago

        Sure, it has multiple causes. Anyone intillegent is just using race as an excuse. China has an ecosystem almost exclusive to China. Is it because they’re racist or because they want control, or both?