The crying “History” button at the top right sends its regards. Yes, the World Jewish Congress has published a report that demands Wikipedia add a feature to view the history of articles, see what actions were performed by whom, and “host forums and discussions within the Wikipedia community to address concerns about neutrality and gather feedback for policy improvements”. It also wants to force all admins and above to reveal their real names.

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    Not exactly sure what you’re arguing about the six-day war, but if you mean that it should be an unjustified invasion instead of “pre-emptive”… My first impression of “pre-emptive” is unjustified and at best marginally better than an invasion, and the UN seems to agree in Article 2 (4) of the UN charter. That “entirely different page” is also summarized in the six-day war–page’s “Controversies” section, but I assume you’re talking about the lede. “On 5 June 1967, as the UNEF was in the process of leaving the zone, Israel launched a series of preemptive airstrikes against Egyptian airfields and other facilities, launching its war effort.[28] Egyptian forces were caught by surprise, and nearly all of Egypt’s military aerial assets were destroyed, giving Israel air supremacy” does not give me an impression that Egypt planned to invade.

    The ADL is one of the biggest Zionist slander lobbies that call any criticism of israel “anti-Semitic”.

    Even if that were true, “there is consensus that the labelling of organisations and individuals by the ADL (particularly as antisemitic) should be attributed.” That converts it into an opinion. Nowhere have you demonstrated that the ADL has a track record of falsifying facts, not opinions such as labeling people.

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      Pre-emptive means that an imminent threat is coming and they struck it first. Aka that “israel had the right to defend itself” before even being attacked. Which was a straight up lie.

      If you’re not informed about the ADL here’s a decent article on it. The more you read up on the ADL the worse it gets.

      Since the 7 October attacks, the ADL has been working with law enforcement to crack down on college campus activism that it sees as antisemitic. They developed a legal strategy to go after branches of Students for Justice in Palestine, and reached out to 200 university leaders calling on them to investigate the group for allegedly providing support to Hamas, which the group vehemently denies. ADL has described grassroots calls for protests of Israel’s military campaign as “pro-Hamas activism”.

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        Again, Wikipedia’s reliable source listings are only concerned about the quality of the source’s factual reporting. Having a horrible bias in judgement does not preclude factual reporting.

        had the right to defend itself” before even being attacked

        And many people think that’s wrong. Just saying that that’s the reason Israel and most publications claim Israel did that is not claiming that it was justified.

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          Calling anti Palestine protests pro Hamas or anti Semitism is not factual.

          Having a “antisemitic incident counter” which increases every time someone says “free Palestine” is not factual.

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            Again, labels, especially of antisemitism, are considered opinions and attributed.

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              The ADL is used as a source for “anti Semitism statistics” which are per definition rigged. An organisation that claims to be anti racism and prejudice which raison d’etre is to smear anyone including Jews which are against israel is not just “opinions”. The ADL is a piece of filth that enables Genocide by using anti-Semitism as a shield for israel.

              The ADL defies its entire point of existence. Classifying pro palestine protests as anti Semitic and hate speech is per definition a lie.

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                  Which they also have no authority for becuase one of their other main goals is spread anti-Arab propganda.

                  Under the guise of fighting hate speech, the ADL has a long history of wielding its moral authority to attack Arabs, blacks, and queers.

                  In the present, the ADL has continued to militate against internationalist, intersectional anti-racism, and has used its status as “the nation’s premier civil rights organization” to do so. In a particularly painful example in 2016, the ADL’s director wrote a critique of the Movement For Black Lives policy platform, using the black spiritual phrasing of the civil rights movement: he told them to set aside intersectional bonds with Palestinian resistance and instead “keep our eyes on the prize.” At the same time, the ADL has consistently used the language of civil rights, and its position as an authority on them, to describe Israeli state military violence as liberatory and Palestinian resistance, including non-violent civil resistance, as extremist. This habit isn’t incidental: the ADL is now a vetter of content for YouTube, where videos relating to the Boyscott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement have been censored as hate speech. It has also reportedly joined forces with Facebook, Twitter, and Microsoft as well to “engineer solutions” to cyberhate, and is building a Silicon Valley “command center” to house these operations.

                  And one of their source articles where it becomes rather apparent that the ADL heavily pushes for islamophobic legislation

                  Shalev: You don’t think that “Muslim-baiting” is much more acceptable in the mainstream media than, say, “Jew-baiting”? There is a Congressman now who is calling for the authorities to keep track of the entire Muslim community.Foxman: I don’t think that’s Muslim-baiting. It’s a natural response. It may be wise or unwise. But I think America’s got an issue now, and not only America. You look at France, you look at London, you look at Amsterdam—most of these incidents have come from Muslim communities that have been brought in and are not assimilating. Just like after 9/11, America is now questioning where the balance is between security and freedom of expression: Should we follow the ethnic communities? Should we be monitoring mosques? This isn’t Muslim-baiting—it’s driven by fear, by a desire for safety and security.

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                    I won’t reply further if you can’t separate bias from objective facts, especially those that are tangential to the bias, such as the history and key persons of a white supremacist group that doesn’t involve Arabs.