With beehaw de-federating from lemmy.world (and seemingly most of the fediverse and this point), myself and many others no longer have a way to even lurk beehaw. Coupled with the fact that beehaw seems to gate-keep their registration, I’m wondering if there’s a way to at least lurk their instance without needing an account. I know it can be done via their website. Is that something Jerboa supports as well?
Any link to news or discussion about this defederation decision? I hadn’t heard about it, or the rationale.
Beat me to it, we have an xpost of it on our instance here: https://sh.itjust.works/post/107627
I can understand de-federating from something like lemmygrad.ml. I can’t for the life of me understand lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works (love the name btw). Both instances just seem to be filled with regular, moderate people?
As far as i understood, it’s a structural problem : there is only 4 admin/moderators and they want to manage/moderate all maintream communities That’s impossible to do, and defederate to lemmy.world send a very bad signal
I think this can go three ways:
- All instances continue as if nothing happened
- Beehaw will slowly lose content and users
- Lemmy.world and shitjustworks will lose content and users
I actually find it an interesting social experiment to see which way things will go.
thanks to jerboa, i can easily join and switch to multiple instances. And as it works with mastodon, everybody must find the right instance for himself at the end. No desire to quit definitively beehaw at this point : i hope it’s only temporary
The tldr is that because we have an open registration policy anyone can make an account on our instance or lemmy.world and post on their instance and they don’t like that, because they say it makes it too easy for their community to be trolled. I don’t think I want to take side on this, but it would be nice to still be able to see their content even if I cant post/comment there.
yeah, it seems like if lemmy implemented “only subscribers can post” and “mods must approve subscriptions” features for communities, beehaw’s concerns about trolling could be solved.
it might take a while for that, though - i think lemmy devs are still working through community features, like private communities and such. amazing progress they’ve made, but advanced community features would be such a solid win for them, esp right now.
Honestly I am not sure if I should just give up on Lemmy already or be doomed to forever constantly find a new instance that either do not block any of the communities I want or isn’t blocked by the instances my communities are on. My current instance decided to block the largest furry instance because it contains adult material, does it get any more childish? And the beehaw situation is just a terrible outlook of what is to come. Reddit has boards for everything that I can freely travel, and if Lemmy can’t even do the basics right what use does it have.
Give it time. There are no modding tools or means to curate personalised feeds without flooding an instance with the contents of the other. I’m sure those will surface eventually
It already makes no sense in the case of beehaw, they just try to create a community free of any criticism, not even downvotes. And in the case of my instance blocking the largest furry board, that’s out of pure spite or a personal dislike for adult content by the operators, I see nothing else. This is not the base for building something that can compete with Reddit. If I do not want to see something, I don’t subscribe to that community, if I don’t like something I downvote it, if I don’t want to see someone again I block him. Those are all the moderation tools needed, and they are all already here.
I’m using RSS to lurk right now, and I’ve applied for an account.
