• GrymEdm@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    Historical misinformation spreads most readily simply by being repeated and undisputed.

    This is admittedly a bit nitpickey, but I specifically said you address misinformation with facts and sources to back up those facts. That’s the opposite of repeating and/or letting it go undisputed.

    Disagreeing with someone civilly acknowledges the validity of their point or position.

    No. You can say, emphatically, “you’re wrong” without also calling someone idiotic, etc.

    is “Every political position, even the one I’m part of, has flaws” really that bad in your eyes?

    I’ve said right from the start that I agree with some points you make, and I stand by that. Being aware that everyone is wrong sometimes is undeniably a virtue.

    That’s the right approach, honestly.

    Thank you :) I appreciate that, and respect that you’re willing to give me that even if we have had our disagreements today.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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      No. You can say, emphatically, “you’re wrong” without also calling someone idiotic, etc.

      I occasionally call out people for their stupidity, but more often I call people out for repeating fascist or pro-genocide talking points. Should I be softening that blow, in your eyes? “Yes, you’re repeating fascist propaganda, but I won’t dare call them something mean like ‘literal fascist talking points’, because that might hurt your feelings”?

      Fascist talking points must be pointed out for what they are, not given the polite euphemisms of civility. Fascism is not acceptable, and it should not be treated as acceptable; that it is a fascist point being made should absolutely be highlighted in any response.

      I’ve said right from the start that I agree with some points you make, and I stand by that.

      I mean, it’s a meme, guy, of something I have repeatedly said is a horoscope for political nerds. It’s not posted seriously, and even if it was, it’s really not that offensive.

      Thank you :) I appreciate that, and respect that you’re willing to give me that even if we have had our disagreements today.

      I’m perfectly capable of civil disagreement. I just don’t extend that courtesy to people who make apologies for genocide or fascism.