• ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    But do you think this is less realistic than how women are depicted in movies? Because that is what the meme seemingly is trying to say.

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      I think what the meme is trying to say is “people in the media portray an unrealistic standard of beauty, it’s not just limited to women”.

      It’s not really saying one is worse than the other.

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        But why does it have to mention that “it is not limited to women”? And why do people then complain that people start writing about women issues in the comments when that is literally what the meme is doing?

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          Why shouldn’t it? Is it not something people should be aware of?

          The meme is just highlighting how the unrealistic standard of beauty is an issue for both genders, but some feminists make it sound like it’s only a woman issue.

          I also don’t see complaints about people talking about women’s issues, at most there’s complaints about people belittling men’s issues.

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            I just don’t understand why a lot of men online only seem to be able to discuss this sort of thing in a context of what women or feminists are supposedly doing. If it really is about men’s issues and not against women, feminism, or belittling women’s issues, than why mention women in the first place?

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              Because there is a huge chunk of feminists who perpetrate misandry in the open and are praised for it. Because TERFs exist. Modern feminism has done so much “reverse sexism” that some feminists avoid calling themselves as such in order not to be associated with those people.

              Not to mention, if someone started talking about body positivity issues for men without mentioning women at all people would come swarming and say “women have it WAY worse!” like it’s happening in this thread. Is it only acceptable to talk about it if it’s prefaced with “modern society has a huge issue with female body standards, but”? And people would probably find a way to complain about that wording as well.

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                A huge chunk of feminists are pereptrating hatred of men and are praised for that?

                I don’t think we share a reality. Unless with a “huge chunk” you mean one hateful twitter post by one individual or whatever you are referring to.

                Otherwise please show to me a few examples where feminists perpetuate hatred towards men. Otherwise I assume you were tricked by some Andrew Tate video into believing there is a conspiracy against men by female raptors in the shadows or something.

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                1 year ago

                So the meme is basically anti-feminist? Complaining about women talking about the female body image presented in media while not also focusing on male body image?

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                  The way I see it, the meme (obviously the original one, this one is a shitpost edit) is taking a jab at feminists who complain about female body standards but enjoy the male body ones. It’s just pointing out the hypocrisy of a (I hope very small) chunk of feminists, not at the movement as a whole.

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                    Then the people misunderstand what feminist theory is saying. It’s not saying that it’s bad to enjoy looking at attractive people’s bodies or that there shouldn’t be attractive characters. It’s about the lack of diversity in the representation of female characters and the reduction on their role as eye-candy.

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      I think what the meme is trying to say is that a superhero with a prehensile, tentacle like penis is setting unrealistic body expectations. Given the tongue in cheek nature of such a claim, and the photo chosen (bottom left of the meme) I’d imagine it’s partially a satirical jab at the kinda person intimidated by Chris Pratt’s abs (as well as just a self-acknowledged shitpost).

      But some of the chat in this thread defintely demonstrates that some folks (mostly m’en I’d presume?) don’t seem to understand the vast difference between body image expectations for men and women in contempary culture.