There was a dipshit in here the other day who said “free Tibet” and “return Hong Kong” in a completely unrelated post.
I told him he should free Hawaii and return whatever land he lived on. He said that it was conquered fair and square.
There’s just absolutely no self reflection in these people. I think it’s fear. Fear that someday, someone is going to do to them what they did to us. But simultaneously unable to deal with the truth.
Would they then support China if they reclaimed Taiwan militarily? “Conquered fair and square”, after all.
Of course not. When the US does it, it’s just how the world works. When anyone else does it, it’s evil authoritarianism.
Average vaushite
Genuine question: What would returning look like practially? Isn’t most land stolen from indiginous groups in general? Would we see people ofnforeigb descent emigrating back to nations of historical origin? Or is this a question of who governs the land, and not who resides on it?
Existing indigenous nations govern the land. Even the neo-Colonial IRA governments are at the forefront of fighting climate change, habitat destruction, and mass extinctions (almost all biodiversity is on indigenous managed land). There are Communists in these nations trying to build them into radical socialist projects. Some nations are very radical.
The settlers will be governed by a joint dictatorship of the oppressed nations, but will have political rights within revolutionary institutions for women, LGBTQ2S+, youth, workers, etc. Much the same as how the CPC rules China, the dictatorship will be selective in who it elevates into the state machine but will stay in touch with the masses through mass organizations like those listed above.
Here’s a post I like to point people toward when this question comes up: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/693142
No, there’ll not be any deportation, but I guess Yankees will have their own gusanos.
Red Nation (indigenous socialist podcast) talks a lot about the landback movement, and they have one episode specifically on it that I haven’t listened to yet. Here.
The best people to look at on how decolonisation and landback will look like is usually those very same nations’ activists. And some references on how it could work out in practice are China’s autonomous regions and some southern countries like Bolivia (heck, maybe even Ireland).
Sadly no country in America is a perfect reference on this, but the demands tend to point in similar directions. Things like autonomous government, language recognition and restoration, banning racist practices, access to basic life-sustaining services within their own borders.
Indigenous people would be treated like actual sovereign nations that can do what they choose with returned land.
You’re kind of doing the, “hunt me for sport” logic with concern for mass deportations, lol. They were genocided and would probably be far kinder to their neighbors than how they were treated.
Would be funny to see white people kicked out tho.
I have no idea what landback entails. That’s why I asked. I get what OP was mocking here. I want to know what the actual advocates for this are seeking, not what reactionary opponents assume they are seeking
Self fulfilling prophecy
Literally…they will slowly push the world into hating them and then wanting to commit violence against them due to their paranoid, projective insanity…
Free Tibet Free East Turmenistan Free HongKong Free Inner Mongolia Free Hawaii Free Puerto Rico Free Falklands Free Kuril islands Free Gibraltar
Free rent in liberal heads too
East Turmenistan
Lmao
Well, if we’re making up places, free Wakanda, free Hexbearistan, and free Blueland!
