Summary
Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum dismissed reports of a potential U.S. “soft invasion” to combat cartels as “entirely a movie,” emphasizing Mexico’s sovereignty as a free, independent nation.
The Rolling Stone report claims Donald Trump’s incoming administration is considering covert military operations in Mexico, including airstrikes and assassinations of cartel leaders.
While Trump and key officials like Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio support such measures, experts warn they could backfire by boosting cartel recruitment, undermining Mexican sovereignty, and fostering cartel-Mexican authority collaboration.
Fuckin wild that we’re reading shit like this.
He’s not even in office yet and threatening war with Mexico. This is going to be a long 4 years
You’re ignoring that he promised his followers that they wouldn’t have to vote, anymore…
Don’t expect to ever be allowed to vote him out.
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*Soft war. Just the tip.
I still can’t believe America voted for this. Holy shit.
Yeah, we dumb. And hateful.
Not all. Just barely enough, but still. Holy shit.
I hope he tells all the troops its a soft war, has them walk leisurely across the boarder, to be met with a wall of mexican flac
It’s a military operation.
Didn’t the nazi’s start with their neighbors too?
The Nazis annexed 3 neighbors without even firing a shot.
The US doesn’t even have 3 neighbors.Uhm…You actually do.
Who the fuck are you calling "you*?
Land connected countries I think it’s only two (direct neighbors): Mexico and Canada. Is there another country I’m missing? If we can continue down south we get into Guatemala and Belize. If we allow water traversal, then the Caribbean is full of places.
I don’t see many of these locations not fighting back one way or another, either directly or through international responses. Germany at least had some casus belli for annexing territory through ethnic/cultural grounds and/or historical border European nation border changes. The US has no such thing to work with, we’d just be obviously complete assheads to annex anything at this point.
Land connected is 2, but Cuba is also right there
We also have a bit of an established history invading Cuba.
Welp, Guantanamo technically has a land border too.
If we’re conting islands then we also have the bahamas, dominican republic, british virgin islands, anguilla, and st kitts & nevis
As long as it ends in 4 years. Otherwise it’s going to be much longer and much bloodier
Granting that he doesn’t Die
2016-2020 was filled to the brim with daily headlines of all the stupid, backward, hateful, fascist shit trump & co were up to. The next n years will be no better.
There’s a documentary about this situation on Paramount+ right now called Season 2 of Lioness
yeah im still trying to piece together the grammar in the title of this post.
This feels like musk motivation there it must be for lithium in Mexico.
You mean Mr “we’ll coup whoever we want”. Surely not.
If the fucker has 2 brain cells, he’d want a better battery.
“soft invasion”? Do you mean some kind of “special operation”?
I wonder where these ideas are coming from?
Yeah. Reads like the same shit the CIA has been doing since there’s been a CIA
Looking like Mexico will be Trump’s Poland.
If things go south here in Ukraine, Poland still has a chance to be Trump’s Poland
isn’t Ukraine south of Poland already?
No it’s to the east.
Any offensive attack against any central or south American country would cause a catastrophic chain of events that would end America as a global power. First it would not only put us at war with every central and South America country but most of the EU and UN nations. South and Central America countries would instantly nullify their anti nuclear weapon agreements. Add in the fact that a large percentage of US citizens have ties to those nation so instantly there would mass unrest in every state. Hell the military wouldn’t be able to mobilize enough people willing to kill friends and family for an offensive war.
Hopefully Mexico won’t announce they found oil or lithium near cartel territories anytime soon.
Mexico doesn’t have to announce it. The US is more than happy to make the announcement before them. Evidence includes “Yellow Cake”, “WMDs in Iraq”, and the fact that our incoming president lies without even thinking at all times.
Mexican president dismisses possible ‘soft invasion’ by U.S. troops as ‘a movie’
Aww, but I’ve already seen this one. It’s called Sicario: Day of the Soldado.
Think the ML bears will be around to call out genocide?
So funny to me how Lemmy users love beefing with each other. They live in your head rent free. No one even said anything you’re just sitting there creating situations in your head like the right wingers you “hate”
I’m pretty sure you’re a Lemmy user.
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Would the Mexican MAGAT voters support a US invasion of Mexico?
That is how tv “celebrity” trump views the world. Drama is his life’s blood.
As an American, I have no one to support in this escalating conflict.
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Go make guns and get them into schools then. Don’t need to be in a war to made some Yanks dead. We’ll fucking do it ourselves.
Personally I think it’s high time Mexico accepts some help with their cartel problem. They’ve literally made zero progress after decades.
That’s up to Mexico to decide, gringo. Short your own shit first. Maybe end the stupidity of the war on drugs that caused the cartels to become economically powerful in the first place. Then let’s talk.
I think even if the US legalized all drugs today the cartels would still be in business. Human smuggling, human trafficking, extortion, kidnapping, and even avocados! The genie has been out of the bottle for a very long time.
Avocados tell you what the end game is. The cartels are going to use their money hordes to form corporations. Then they will buy out the government to take over Mexican sovereignty. That’s how the US “defeated” organized crime.
Flashbacks to the United Fruit Company… Wait, I don’t even have to go that far… Flashbacks to Chiquita Brands International.
Ending prohibition ended the reign of that generation of American gangsters though. Beyond that, I’m for a whole bunch of bleeding heart pinko policies. Open borders for example, a Pan-American Schengen.
You do realize cartels and human trafficking groups exist because there’s a high demand of that in the USA?
Yes. Unfortunately human trafficking doesn’t go away when you legalize prostitution. You still need to do a lot of police work to track down the traffickers and free the victims.
It becomes easier when you can go to the police and you don’t get thrown in jail for the job you were doing.
You’d be surprised at how much the traffickers can adapt to this. They keep their victims in a group, renting out hotel rooms, constantly moving from place to place. The victims never know where they are, not even what city they’re in. They don’t have any local contacts, no social network, no supports. They basically have to work up the courage to escape from men (whom they believe will kill them) and run to the police in a completely unfamiliar city with no help.
We’ve been working on that though, at least in blue states.
I think there’s value in having US troops stationed in Mexico to fight cartels and root out corruption as long as Mexico agrees to it. I understand that this isn’t what Trump is advocating for though.
If the Mexican government actually, freely requests it, that’s their right. The point is that the US should not do in Mexican territory anything the Mexican government does not specifically endorse.
This response right here is the statement that makes the border just get more and more violent. The US is just going to start pulling a Poland and kill anyone who attempts crossing-no questions asked-unless mexico taskes some actual action against the Sinaloa and gulf cartels.
So far all they do is get in bed with them and let the problem spiral to the point where they don’t have to acknowledge law enforcement.
So call names and be racist all you want, this shit will happen regardless of what Mexico ‘wants’. They’re not powerful enough to get a say, that’s just the way it is.
So basically, the melian dialogue, might makes right, that’s where we’re at, right? Go ahead, treat the rest of the hemisphere as your private fiefdom, and then be surprised about antiamericanism. Look at the way you’re talking. It’s like the 19th fucking century all over again. “Racist”? What the fuck man. You got offended by “gringo”?! Really?! You’re talking like a United Fruit Company exec and you’re calling me a racist? You put “wants” in quotation marks and you call me a racist? As if what, Mexico is not a real country, right? They don’t get a say, right? Angloamericans know best. The rest are just pretend countries. I’m Canadian and even I vomit a bit with the imperialist attitudes being expressed in this thread, and your feefees got hurt by the word gringo? Tabarnak des maudits esti d’americains, calisse de caves.
Skepticism-deprived people — eager to believe and spread obvious untruths like what you’ve posted — are the biggest danger America faces.
In case you do, here’s a list of dozens of politicians murdered in cold blood this year: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_politicians_killed_during_the_2024_Mexican_elections
Now when you say “sort your own shit first”, you don’t mean politician murders, correct? Because that seems sorted.
And the Americans walking in and waving their dicks around will solve everything, right?
You guys never learn, do you?
“but if you compare this very specific area, we don’t have a problem!”
You wanna talk about all those dead politicians or no?
Yeah, all of them were killed with U.S. weapons funded by U.S. money. We need to get our shit together and stop hurting our neighbors.
And if people have questions what I mean, I’ve said it before, if you want to make America great, it is made up of ~35 countries, independent. Working trade deals, cutting funding from militant or criminal groups such as the cartels everyone brings up and forcing them to economically suffer while supporting our neighbors by redirecting outsourced jobs that are going half way around the world to China to our neighbors in South America. A great example have said before is farming fish. We farm fish in the U.S. ship them to China for packaging and then all the way back to the U.S. for sale. That is a huge hit on the environment and an opportunity to bring jobs to markets and strengthen them in much closer regions. Assist in stabilizing the currencies and economies for our neighbors and we stop any such border crisis. Otherwise we pay an indefinite extremely high cost that prolongs suffering for both us and them. If you want America to be great, start with us earning the respect of those around us and becoming the ally they want to support, not out of fear but out of that respect. Those trade deals allow those countries to stabilize inflation, get control on crime, and become better places to live for their populations. That means stability and no reason to leave their culture behind and flee into a dangerous world of hate many people have fostered. Kill hate with responsible kindness.
Welp, I’m drunk
Legalise drugs and you collapse the cartels
America need some help too. Organized crime in the US just merged with corporations and bought up most of the politicians. Now their crimes are mostly legal.
It won’t be, nor should it be, the US “helping”… we literally elected our cartel leaders to POTUS…
Wrong, the demand for the illegal drugs is in the USA and you need to cut that off.
Personalmente, espero que no seas yankee
