It was a got damn stunt, offc
This is more like, yet another PR flattery stunt, that Trump enjoyed in his first term too. Unclear that it means Tik Tok is going to help him get a 3rd term, or censor criticism of him.
Can you walk me through that? You think that Trump’s team coordinated with Biden to make him sign the ban for Trump’s benefit?
Do you not remember Trump being the driving force of banning it on his first term?
It the fact he is requiring them to give over a 50% stake of the company for unnamed us owners?
Yes, I remember that. The Israeli lobby has been pushing both parties to do it.
But how is the Trump team responsible for the Biden team following through and actually doing it?
Pre-election, it was a concern for all lawmakers that IDF soldiers showing off their genocide, or Palestinian sympathizers angry about genocide should not be able to embarass the US to young people. Congress voted to “force sale” of TikTok, and Biden signed law many months ago. Minuchin/Zionist groups offered to buy Tik Tok without the algorithm just so they could fully complete the zionist monopoly of news/media through censorship power. After the election, zionist supremacism media exposure doesn’t matter anymore. US/Israel gets to do what they want to do, and explicit Trump/GOP supporters do not hand wring over Islamophobia.
Biden did say after SCC ruling, that he would not enforce anything, and Apple/Google could have avoided removing from app stores. But Tik Tok went dark anyway, with specific message, imploring glorious new leader’s “progressiveness” on not hating Americans for the complete BS that was the ban fiasco. Even if bipartisan zionist congress voted for ban, with explicit justification that Israel needs to be given a better image to young people, it is flattery to Trump to make this all balmed on dark Brandon.
So again, Biden made an unforced error. How did the Trump team make him do it?
Tik Tok is just flattering Trump by saying he will save the US from Biden. The SCC case decided just last Friday, with Biden promissing not to enforce it, were events that unfolded by their own inertia. Tik Tok users by definition not wanting the ban, is the political probletunity that Tik Tok can deliver to Trump as a win for him, through flattery. It’s only an error, with no political gains, after election is decided to zionist glee.
I understanding is that Biden didn’t actually sign the binding to law.
Then you’re not informed.
Ah you pussies. Come on, show them you’re serious. Go dark again. Show them you really mean it and do the rest of the territories too. Forever.
Iranian hostages anyone? Look how trump saved the day. He gives them their bread and circuses.
Marvel Snap is still down. Like the 1980s we nerds don’t matter.
The fix is in, and TikTok is now just another implement in Trump and Elon’s disinformation machine. Crazy times, our country is literally being run by the top social media platforms.
Yes, before this it was run by regular media platforms.
Social media is way more efficient though. Like, almost incomparable.
Goebbels would be proud.
Key word being “literally”
Did you do your part to vote against Trump?
The AP is supposed to be a neutral source, but they are decidedly right leaning.
There is clear, relevant reporting to be done on how odd the structure of all this is and that the app’s self imposed shutdown message specifically praised trump, by name. They buried a photo of it, but I don’t see direct text in the article discussing that. They also don’t mention the fact that the CEO had been privately meeting with trump recently.
They say Biden had a part in the ban, though he said publicly he would not enforce it - what matters there, that AP doesn’t mention, is that the republicans held humanitarian aide to Ukraine hostage back in April, saying they’d block unless the tick tok ban was passed. Laying the groundwork for this hollow attempt to “blame Biden” and position trump as a solution (to a problem he instigated and that republican think tanks engineered).
They do say the CEO will attend and have a “prime seating location” but not clarifying that the seats he’ll be in are typically reserved for living past US presidents.
Fucking joke.
So your defense of Biden signing the ban is that he had to because it was tied to arming far-right Nazis in Europe? And you think this is a good argument?
Oh boy…
They say Biden had a part in the ban, though he said publicly he would not enforce it - what matters there, that AP doesn’t mention, is that the republicans hello humanitarian aide to Ukraine hostage back in April, saying they’d block unless the rock you ban was passed. Laying the groundwork for this hollow attempt to “blame Biden” and position trunk as a solution (to a problem he instigated and that republican think tanks engineered).
You’re making an important point here, but it’s somewhat undermined by the fact that your rogue auto[in]correct needs to be taken out behind the barn and shot.
Ha, wonderful! Corrected, thanks for pointing that out.
Note: I had to manually correct the auto"correct" for just about every word on that small sentence above (and in this note)
Spreading for awareness, I’ve been posting this in relevant threads for a week - This is all theater.
trump was always going to “save” tik tok after starting the initial push to ban it (for the wrong reasons) to pretend he did something for you. Worst part is that all of the no/low info voters and non voters will eat it up.
It’s the equivalent of a person pushing you into the middle of the street and at the very last second, that same person tells the drivers to all stop. “Wow, I owe you my life!”
And now, this adds two layers:
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You think trump and the Supreme Court are colluding? now they get to say, nah uh!!! Even though again, this is all convoluted.
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trump gets to look “stronger” than the “highest court in the land” to help delude the next generation of low info tiktok folks.
P.s. The Chinese “protest” apps that were downloaded are going to mine the FUCK out of these millions of phones in the brief window they have them. Also, when the kids inevitably move back to tiktok, majority of them will still leave these other apps installed on their phones, dormant and collecting indefinitely in the background.
Personally I would’ve gone with a Protection Racket metaphor.
People like you really don’t get it. You can’t wrap your head around people not caring about their data.
There are people DYING because they don’t have access to affordable healthcare. There are families forced to live in section 8 housing because they can’t afford to feed their family and have a place to live at the same time. Our children are DYING in school while the police sit outside and watch. WE DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT OUR DATA.
This whole debacle should infuriate every single American. 85% of congress voted to disenfranchise 150 MILLION Americans. These assholes can’t agree on anything but they can agree on this. It’s a travesty that our elected officials can spoon feed you some bullshit about China and you forget how they don’t care about you.
You don’t realize how your data not being secure contributes to all of the problems you list.
I imagine the issue is that you think “your data” means that list of your “5 favorite types of hats” you posted yesterday or that mp3 of dogs barking happy birthday on your phone - yes, that is data, but it’s not really what we’re talking about here. Your data collectively, in a profile that is bought and sold, is like your DNA - it is the blueprint to exactly who you are, where/why you are weak and when/how to manipulate you.
I appreciate your passion, but your blind rage here is misplaced and frankly, your position is severely ignorant of the reality you’re currently operating in, in several key areas. You also seem to have wholly constructed an adversarial relationship here where you try to frame me as in support of our Congress, I am not. I don’t agree with how this bill was assembled, lobbied or passed in Congress. I do understand some of the nuance though, so I consider that. As I’ve said, after trump introduced a tiktok ban as a pure racist distraction without any actual substance, republican think tanks took the ball and engineered this situation as a trap, so they could attack either outcome from democrats (because they are feckless, grifting cowards). Key tactic within that strategy was when Republicans held Ukraine aid hostage on the condition that they wouldn’t approve spend unless the tiktok bill was allowed as well. So Congress reluctantly passed it, and Biden signed it and then he made an official statement that he or his administration would not enforce it (essentially saying, we were forced into this bullshit). So at that point, you’re talking about innocent human lives under an active terrorist attack from Russia in the balance.
Again, there’s a lot here you don’t understand it seems. I welcome you to breathe a bit, slow down and have a discussion. Happy to chat if you need.
Sorry to be a pedant about little things, but while you’re fixing typos, it’s “aid” not “aide”. I just mention it because it really changes the sense of “holding aid hostage.”
Not at all. I can’t say if autocorrect did this or my own mistake, but either way should be corrected now. Thank you for the note.
I’m not saying everything you’re saying here is correct but, this is exactly how a lot of people I know feel. What the replies to your comments aren’t understanding is that emotions are often stronger than facts. The average American has no idea how things work but they do know how they feel about them not working. That’s the reason they all have no problem handing over all their data.
And people like you don’t get that the worsening of all those problems will only accelerate under Trump’s corrupt plutocracy.
You know many of us agreed to give our data to China rather than messenger or else wise?
What point are you trying to make, and in response to what?
Also what do you think? The PS, China was mentioned and I mentioned China?
Simple. We choose to give our data to another country instead of companies that sell our data without us knowing. Also in Little red book. You see it tells the users to be cautious where they share their facial data and that it’s not needed to use the app?
You’re not making a lot of sense… It also seems that you’re under the impression that tiktok doesn’t sell data and ad profiles like all other social media networks?
Also tell me what’s not already online somewhere??? Location, Phone Number, Favourite things all already shared because we agreed! Also honestly I doubt any negative would happen with any data unless someone was against the Chinese government, was extremely rude to the natives of the app or else wise. Which to me seems incredibly fair.
Oh boy…
Ohhh boy? Can we try and keep the conversation flowing and meaningful whether disagreeing or else wise. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying China or any other countries are perfect but of what I’ve seen. They aren’t the enemies the west portrays them to be. Including in my case I am the pupil of Meng Tian’s History. Further innovative and meaningful change.
Can I ask why are you going after little red book compared to other companies. Like while yes they may mine phone numbers but many many other platforms do it. Though Little Red Book encourages people not to share facial recognition data and you don’t need to, to use their app. They aren’t perfect and no app is but I feel much more inclined to use their app when there’s even a slight warning about sharing certain data compared to others that don’t care.
No trust me I know TikTok did and how am I not making sense. It’s simple. We choose to go to a literal Chinese app due to our governments decision? How can I make that anymore clear? We chose to give our data to another country? You seem to be hard of reading or thinking there’s some meaning in my text that there’s not, what are you assuming?
Through your odd syntax at times and non-US spellings of common words, seems likely that you aren’t actually from the United States - the US being the place where this farce was perpetrated - yet you speak with an “us” and a “we”… It’s strange.
Anyway, these are a few odd bits of info that seem to inform you as an unreliable source in this discussion. Are you trying to sow discord from afar, you silly little scamp?
I use a Canadian keyboard because it’s easier 😆 but I live in the US just under the great lakes. EST time. Though believe that if you wish. I am influenced by many cultures around the world from Norse, Chinese and more!
I think it’s a valid point that the concern being raised about tik tok is just as valid with other apps, both from Facebook or Twitter etc and from overseas apps. People are happily giving up their data and don’t see a distinction in how it is being used for disinformation by different state actors. It’s all misinformation.
People are apathetic to the risk, but also don’t see the risk for foreign government snooping as significantly higher than internal snooping.
Many people also don’t consider the willingness and commitment to giving China data now. I mean if Facebook, Twitter and else wise. Is scanning our wifi to see what is connected to it and what we have access to. Why not go ahead and give our data to a country they’ll sell the data to.
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Trump hasn’t even become president yet, and already they’re giving him praises.
Republicans are always president and can do things like negotiate the release of hostages. They just let democrats pretend sometimes.
In fairness even the Democrats are Republicans these days.
Glares at Fetterman
Note that the law does not prohibit TikTok from operating. It prohibits companies like Google and Apple from distributing it, and according to this article, they are in fact not distributing it.
Even as TikTok was flickering back on, it remained unavailable for download in Apple and Google’s app stores.
TikTok shut off voluntarily and that appears to have been an excellent PR move, but we won’t know for certain until Trump does or doesn’t do something about it in the next few days.
It was a publicity stunt. That’s manipulative as fuck. You can add them to the list of businesses in Trump’s pocket.
TikTok may trust Trump but Apple and Google are much better off acting like the law is in force and could be used against them.
TikTok also was and still is acting like the law is in force - the law does not require it to shut off. They aren’t taking any legal risk.
Sec. 2) This division prohibits distributing, maintaining, updating, or providing internet hosting services for a foreign adversary controlled application (e.g., TikTok).
The “providing internet hosting services” seems like it could be an issue there
The law actually bans “providing internet hosting services to enable the distribution, maintenance, or updating of such foreign adversary controlled application for users within the land or maritime borders of the United States.”
If Google and Apple aren’t distributing, maintaining, or updating TikTok then it follows that nobody is providing internet hosting services enabling distribution, maintenance, or updating of TikTok.
Wouldn’t the ISP be liable?
Only if they hosted someone who distributed the app or update. Which nobody is doing.
Call me crazy but this feels all like a plan to push the Maga movement, first the “bad democrats” take away the “lovely” tiktok, then “good” trump brings back the beloved “noncensorship” tiktok because he “loves” freedom of speech or smth.
But trump is the one who started the movement to ban it when he was president the first time!
No one will remember that since it happened prior to last week.
STOP BEING RIGHT!!!
Hi my name is Fred the goldfish
HEY IT’S FRED!!!
Remember that? Remember Fred? Ah, of coarse not. You have the memory of a goldfish…
Wasn’t there a game called freddy fish as a child hood education game?
It’s where I learnt what a sea Eneneme was.
Yeah this.
I don’t really think that’s the case. I mean, the democrats are idiots, sure, but why would they take part in the scheme when they know Trumps followers wanna line them up against the wall?
Because the Republicans tied aid to Ukraine to the Tik Tok ban. Democrats were forced to vote for it to continue to prevent the fall of a country fighting off an invasion.
He literally was the president at the time and he was the one that pushed for the ban. It’s a matter of public record, not that that really matters anymore.
I don’t know why the Dems keep shooting themselves in the foot to further Republican goals but they seem to be pretty good at it.
Because the Democrat politicians hold all the same stocks as the Republicans
I bet the new algorithm will be pushing push far right content to everyone just like Twitter and Meta, this was a stunt to silence the leftists.
Gaza ceasefire and reversed TikTok ban. He’s basically won over younger voters before he’s even started.
It’s as if plutocrats worldwide are teeing up fake wins to help Trump solidify his power because they see an opportunity to kill off liberalism once and for all.
There’s no way GenZ can possibly be this stupid, right?
A lot voted trump, so yes?
Iceberg of stupidity. And it’s not just genZ. It’s Americans in general.
Lol
That’s totally not fishy at all
The only way his ban evasion will work is if they find a buyer in 90 days
Or Trump keeps extending it or the newly formed Congress rolls back the law or the corrupt Supreme Court changes its mind or or or.
They entire US government is a game of oligarchic Calvinball.
Tomorrow Trump becomes the commander in cheif of the executive branch, the branch explicitly in charge of enforcing the law. The concept of salutary neglect is not new to America, and I don’t think much could stop him if he decided to simply not enforce the law as written. As you point out, it would not be the first time the country played by it’s own rules made up on the spot.
Uhhh, Trump is literally the executive.
He just commands the FCC or other authorities to ignore TikTok. He can extend this ban evasion for all 4 years if he wants.
Congress and Supreme Court do not control the executive powers. The President does.
Does the FCC have the discretion to do that after Chevron, I wonder?
Doesn’t matter; SCOTUS is controlled by “unitary executive theory” nutjobs now. The FCC can do whatever Trump wants it to do; no more, no less.
As long as he can make money off of tiktok (either through videos or bribes) he’ll keep extending it.
