I’d like to thank everyone for my most upvoted post on lemmy ever. Not only have you upvoted it to the top for like 2 days you commented the shit out of it. I’d like to take this opportunity to say fuck the mods of this instance. This was my second post coming off a 30 day ban and I want to say these fucking mods have been nothing but bitches. I’ve never been more attacked on any other instance, subreddit, forum, etc. then I have been in this fucking instance. Not only have I been attacked I’ve been told my memes arent memey enough again and again.
I’ll be honest, I do not know how to make a meme but I keep posting just to piss in these mods cheerios.
Thanks lemmy.world/politicalmemes for being the worst community I’ve ever been a part of.
ah, so you don’t know how policy works.
protests very frequently change policy. protests are why you have 8-hour days and firefighters.
these ones are making a change as well.
That wasn’t just protests. Unionists and syndicalists paid for that dearly in blood.
the protests and work stoppages changed policies, not the occasional fistfights.
That’s what you’ve been gaslit into thinking so that you don’t get rowdy.
you are historically and factually incorrect.
as for your backwards insult, I am advocating for change through protest, which Is historically relevant in changing policy, while you are whining that nobody should “get rowdy”.
you are hiding, you have been cowed into believing you can’t make a change.
stand up. have some pride.
When?
That’s the exact opposite of what I’m saying.
Again, that’s the opposite of what I’m saying. We can make a change, but protests aren’t how it gets done.
“When?”
Gandhi freed India(1947
The Civil Right Act.(1964)
Women’s Suffrage(1920)
nearly every labor right you enjoy(from 200 years ago up to today)
nearly every civil right you enjoy.(sames)
There are literally countless examples.
All of your privileges you take for granted and are blissfully ignorant of were bestowed upon you by caring citizens who took the time to demonstrate their political will.
Sorry to burst the bubble.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign
I really want to be in a time of history where rapid, positive political change is possible through non-violence alone. Those levers were taken away by decades of anti-electoralism/accelerationism and it’s always easier to break things than to build them.
again, this 100% agrees with my thesis that protests are effective, your pretense of argument is nonsensical.
thank you for proving me right again, and if you want to pretend that proving me correct somehow benefits you, go for it.
This is exactly what I mean. You are gaslit into thinking those were accomplished through protests and not violent riots.
To be fair the liberation of India wasn’t accomplished through violence, at least not mainly. It wasn’t accomplished through protest either, mind you; Ghandi’s approach was simply not supporting the British occupation (which needed Indian collaboration to function) and letting it collapse under its own weight.
those wins were accomplished through protests, and this sounds like it’s going to shock you, but a violent mob is a form of protest.
You’re still agreeing with me, despite your efforts.
this feels like it’s conflating strikes and protests
it might help you to recognize that an organized strike is a form of protest.
yes, a strike is a subset of protest, but the person you were responding to said “standing in a street? nobody cares” because they are accurately saying that the current protests are not labor strikes
not at all.
they were inaccurately saying that protests do not affect policy.
that is flatly incorrect.
protests do affect policy, regardless of the form of protest.
they did not say “the current protests are not labor strikes”, which would be a bizarre non-sequitur.
they said that “standing in a street? no one cares.” can you dospute that? is standing in a street what got us 8 hour days, or was it the labor strikes?
“they said that “standing in a street? no one cares.” can you dospute that?”
Yes, easily. I can prove them and you irrefutably incorrect.
The civil rights movement happened because people were “standing in a street”
women got the right to vote because people were “standing in a street”
racial inequalities in labor were legislatively addressed because people were “standing in a street”
remember that " I have a dream" speech?
Guess where Martin Luther King Jr was standing?
y’all ig’nant.
Y’know I think we’re arguing pointlessly here. Put that energy and anger you have into getting people onto the street, enough people (100s of thousands) does have impact, but just maybe try taking on board what everyone is trying to say which is that you need more than protests, you absolutely need strikes, and possibly more.
You don’t need as many people as you’re afraid of, but don’t worry, I am getting people out there.
“…everyone is trying to say which is that you need more than protests, you absolutely need strikes.”
This is my original point that “everybody” is angrily agreeing with me about, so…sure.
I still agree with my original point.
Inertia is a human force of behavior, I get that. But the landscape has changed. The methods of pre-2024 will NOT work, they will be summarily ignored. Standing in a street will now be summarily ignored.
Or forcefully dispersed. Remember, in his prior admin, he wanted to know why we didn’t just send the national guard out to kneecap people.
“Inertia is a human force of behavior, I get that.”
great.
“But the landscape has changed.”
boy, has it not.
“The methods of pre-2024 will NOT work, they will be summarily ignored.”
this is incorrect, and is much more a symptom of anxiety than any sort of legitimate statement.
“Standing in a street will now be summarily ignored.”
again, incorrect and a simple anxiety.
I’m sure things look very scary or daunting to you, but you don’t have to take part in making the US a better place, these tens of thousands of people are doing that for you.
“Or forcefully dispersed.”
this one’s definitely not happening.
there were 50 protests a few days ago that were not dispersed, and countless others defending civil rights Nationwide in the past week that were not “dispersed”.
you have the wrong information, or more likely, no information.
again, it sounds like anxiety.