• Maalus@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    It is not “a bad faith argument”, it’s the truth. Capitalism has been “in force” since ancient times. Where there is money and private ownership, there is capitalism. And yeah, communism has killed more people than nazis ever did, not that it is a contest. The reality is people who have never had anything to do with communism romanticize it as some great solution that solves every problem, when in reality it results in murderous regimes that oppress their people, their neighbors and everyone else there is to oppress.

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      19 hours ago

      when in reality it results in murderous regimes that oppress their people, their neighbors and everyone else there is to oppress.

      Huh TIL that the USA is communist.

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      I never said it wasn’t the truth, I said it was a bad faith argument. You’re bringing up the death-toll from Communism to call them Nazi-equivalents while ignoring the significantly higher death-toll from Capitalism. This is the textbook definition of deflection.

      The actual reality is that, no matter what economic system you follow, if you want to kill and oppress people; you will kill and oppress people. Nazis are very clear that they want to kill and oppress people.

      There are people that romanticize Communism, I do not (as I’ve said, it’s not a good system). I can still see that Communism is not calling for the death of others for social stability, even if Mao/Stalin/Putin/Xi themselves are.

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        12 hours ago

        You are confused about what point you are trying to make. Communists have killed millions. So have nazis. Nazis aren’t welcome because of that. Neither should communists. You launching into a tirade about capitalism is changing the subject and actually strawmanning.

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          12 hours ago

          You are confused about what point you are trying to make. Capitalists have killed billions. So have nazis. Nazis aren’t welcome because of that. Neither should capitalists. You launching into a tirade about communism is changing the subject and actually strawmanning.

          If you cannot see the point after this, it’s beyond saving.