Autism isn’t an inherently bad thing. I have friends and a cousin with autism and they’re awesome and socialize and are just fine in society in every way. Stigmatizing it to make vaccinations seem horrible is just stupid in so many ways.
and are just fine in society in every way.
I wonder if that’s their experience, or merely appearance (from a well kept mask).
…do you think it isn’t possible for someone who has autism to fit in in society?
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Where did that question come from?
Something between the lines being presumed/projected?
Reminds me why I find it so difficult “to fit in society” where words do not mean what words mean.
Maybe it’d help to focus more on the “just fine” and “in every way”, as the active objects of my wondering.
I mean autism is an inherently bad thing in that it’s basically just raising the difficulty of life across the board, and that’s for high-functioning autism. Low-functioning autism is its own beast. There are aspects to autism that would make someone think “oh no this could happen to my child?!”. Still better than the imagined alternative obviously.
There are some examples I’ve seen where, frankly, the difficulty is more that neurotypical people who’ve never had to try or learn how to actually communicate get mad when the bullshit script isn’t being followed. The only problem is that that group of autistic people have more difficulty not being honest, even if politely and constructively, when “tradition” is horseshit.
The challenges are fake in way too many cases, is what I’m saying. Same with ADHD people being forced to fit into a mold that doesn’t even really fit the neurotypical people. It could so easily not be a fucking problem.
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5g radio waves in the needle
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How does that work then? 😂
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Someone once said:
If one assumes that autistic people, due to their special interests, are overrepresented among scientists, then it may not be a wrong assumption that autism can be the cause of vaccines.
I suspect more businessmen are the cause.
Most lucrative area of for-profit-medicine1.
Only one you can scare even the healthy into taking, and even “mandate”.
Very lucrative.
Attracts the greediest cowboys.
Even bought themselves statutes to say they cannot be prosecuted for harms from their profiteering.
If scientists had more say, and had spines strong enough to speak out enough, and had platforms loud enough, to compete with the “it’s just business” sorts, we may live in a very different world. A thousand exciting and enticing lies of marketing hypnotise before the calm scrutiny of science is even out of bed. … I say, having used to work in marketing and advertising (before Bill Hicks saved me) over 2 decades ago.
1 “A patient cured is a customer lost.” “A dead patient is just a cost of business.”
It’s not that weird of a position. Penn and Teller did a show on it based on the then believed data that vaccines cause autism. (Which has now long since been discredited.)
They showed the statistics of dying/paralysis/etc were far greater than the chance of autism. So in their opinion, even if vaccines caused autism ( the debunked paper showed a tiny percent chance) , it was still safer to take the vaccine.
Even if it wasn’t autism, there is a tiny chance your child can have a dangerous reaction to a vaccine. I was nervous with my children but had it done anyway. My son had a minor reaction to the Polio shot and lost the ability to walk for a couple of days.
i’m not sure what you mean by this, because you seem to be implying that autism is somehow dangerous? which just obviously isn’t true?
autism isn’t bad, it’s just different. If anything it’s better considering how much we rely on science and technology and organization these days, we could use more autistic people who’ll raise a stink when people skirt protocol for stupid reasons.
It’s worth remembering that autism is a spectrum. We are at the higher end, many benefits, with limited downsides. Others aren’t as lucky.
The argument was also a bypass type. Even if vaccines cause autism, and even if autism is entirely bad, it’s still worth getting vaccinated. It cuts a lot of the talking points off at the knee. Even if we assume our opponent’s position, it’s still not an argument in favour of what they are saying.
I mean, you’re a pretty horrible person if you’d rather have your child die of a completely preventable disease than have a kid with autism.
Would like to scrutinise the statistics and ingredients.
As an autistic person, the world would be much happier of we all were. You neurotypicals need to stop lying to eachother every chance you get for y’all have any idea how confusing your casual dishonesty is?
I still think there are multiple conditions under a conflationary diagnosis, still in an infancy of understanding what’s going on. Like maybe some are being chemically lobotomised, and the damages are being covered up, thrown into this broad-bag diagnosis of autism, for the corporation to save on paying out for damages.
I wonder if that may help explain people like that. And I wonder if explanations like that would change the minds of people like that.
Or maybe she’s pro-vaccine like I’m pro-vaccine, and points out some things sold as vaccines are not vaccines…? Or… Or… Really not enough information available to cover all the quirks of nuance in that, before playing with Hanlon’s razor.
Robert DeNiro has a child with Autism he is absolutely positively convinced was caused by vaccines, he’s shushed a lot in public, but it’s a rock solid belief of his. I have no idea what to say except, the science says it’s not true, so I either believe one man’s (more than that but still) personal experience and unimaginable pain at the unfairness of life, or I believe demonstrable scientifically tested fact. I go with the later, but still with Bobby well.
the science says
is marketing lingo to deceive.
so I either believe one man’s (more than that but still) personal experience and unimaginable pain at the unfairness of life, or I believe demonstrable scientifically tested fact.
Or you could deploy non-belief, curiosity, and the mark of an educated mind (~ able to entertain an idea without necessarily accepting nor rejecting it) rather than get mucky in false dichotomies, poisoned-well leading-language fallacies, and marketing induced dogmas of absolute certainty that have no place in science. Though, sure, belief’s an option too.
Autism: Better than polio
