Donald Trump's National Security Advisor, Mike Waltz, has reportedly been using his personal Gmail account for government communications.
  • Optional@lemmy.world
    1181·
    1 year ago

    Jesus fucking Christ is everyone a complete idi- . . . oh.

    Yes. Yes everyone is a complete idiot.

    Shit.

      • Madison420@lemmy.world
        24·
        1 year ago

        I think her response was literally “Jesus Christ are you serious?” About the signal thing, if they do nothing here she can sue for malicious prosecution and probably succeed under ftca.

  • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    46·
    1 year ago

    Seems like they’re going to have Waltz take the fall for all of this. He must have had Jeffrey Goldberg in his contacts list to add him on the Signal chat, and Trump probably thinks he’s been in contact with Goldberg and therefore not 100% loyal to Trump. Getting rid of Mike Waltz over using Gmail improperly would isolate the impact to just him, rather than everyone on the Signal chat.

    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
      153·
      1 year ago

      A weather report can be classified. Something that’s been published in the NY Times might be classified.

      Something the Secretary of State writes themselves might be classified. Even saying “I was talking to Prime Minster whoever last week” could be classified even when there’s a photo of the Sec State standing next that Prime Minister on the front page of that country’s biggest newspaper.

      There is no risk if someone stamps something innocuous as classified, but there’s hell to pay if something that’s sensitive doesn’t get stamped classified. So a lot of shit is labelled classified when it doesn’t need to be.

      Not all classified information is about a military operation that’s set to kick off in a few hours.

      Hillary Clinton was very thoroughly investigated and the classified information was a big nothing-burger. Or do you honestly believe the Trump administration gave her a pass because they’re benevolent?

      running her own shady-ass server away from the prying eyes of FOIA

      It’s illegal to use government property for campaign purposes. Obviously Clinton was working towards a presidential campaign (she was working towards it her entire life) so the laws necessitated her to have emails related to that not be on a government server (government property).

      Sorry, Hilary’s emails wasn’t anything. You were just told that over and over again until it started to sound like there might be something to it. But it was nothing.

        • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
          1·
          1 year ago

          Classification aside, is it really too much to expect her to know the difference between work related vs private communication?

          There can be information that’s classified, then a reporter finds out about it and it gets printed in the NY Times. But that information is still classified. So you can simultaneously be discussing something that’s public knowledge and also classified.

          But you’re upset about things like that happening because you were on active duty and probably getting Fox News blasted at you 24/7 in the mess hall and you got suckered by it. You don’t want to admit you’re a sucker (as your President says you are), so you’re going to go on pretending that you have some special knowledge that no one else has.

          Hilary Clinton is a smart woman and Trump and his gang are a bunch of morons. Your country is fucked and it’s not going to get any better until y’all can start admitting that you got scammed.

    • frezik@midwest.social
      21·
      1 year ago

      Here’s the thing about that email server: it was standard operating procedure for the White House at the time.

      Email starts to be used for official communication under Bill’s administration, but everyone is still trying to figure out this Internet thing back then. It was standard for the Secretary of State to run their own email server all through the Bush II administration. Hillary was simply following what was already established. It was only when John Kerry took the office that this was changed to bring their email server under White House IT staff control.

      Which is what should have happened within a few years of Bush II’s first term. As someone who has managed their own email server before, it’s hard to setup an email server that works correctly. It’s even harder to set it up in a way that doesn’t immediately become a spam gateway and security hazard. As soon as the government was getting a handle on this Internet thing, all staff email servers should have been run by government IT directly.

      That isn’t on Hillary alone. It’s a decision that crossed three different Presidential administrations and both major parties.

      FOIA was followed, though. The DOJ got plenty of Hillary’s emails by way of FOIA.

    • altkey (he\him)@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      That’s all bipartisan system and predetermined positions. Can’t attack your own camp because at the pres race you’d hurt already choosen pres candidate and would be seen as your own camp’s traitor to target so-called allies. Even after she is irrelevant, for it gives a signal you can do this to everyone else, and gives free fuel to the opponent’s platform. Playing favorites in cases of infosec breachea seems wild, but here we are.

      Since it was dropped in the heat of the race, I can get why it was downplayed as a rep-based attack on Hilary, but she’s still okay after all of that, and I fear, she is still pickable for the next pres race instead of any other better candidate.

  • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
    37·
    1 year ago

    Nazis don’t give a shit about being hypocrites.

    They’re open and proud about it, they fundamentally believe that they’re right because they believe they’re right, and you’re wrong because you don’t. Shouting buttery males or pointing out leopard face eating is like throwing a cucumber at the terminator and expecting a reaction. They don’t give a shit. They absolutely will not stop ever until The Right Peopletm have all the power to the exclusion of everyone else.

    What matters is consequences. What are we going to do about it? We’ve had nearly two decades of high roading and it’s gotten us to a demonstrably worse place. Neither leftists nor the people the republicans intend to harm can afford for us to take the high road off a cliff. Stop expecting anything but hypocrisy or trying to show them how wrong they are. Stop letting them lead you around by the nose with reactions. Start focusing on what we’re going to do, start focusing on leading us somewhere new.

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      1 year ago

      Hillary wasn’t prosecuted, though she probably should have been. But, she was grilled by government committees for many hours.

      • Soulg@ani.socialEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        I mean, they investigated it so thoroughly and decided it wasn’t criminal

            • merc@sh.itjust.works
              2·
              1 year ago

              Do you think they would have prosecuted if it had been a low level employee doing the same thing? Running their own private email server, doing government business on that server?

              I think they would have, that’s why I think it’s important to note that they chose not to prosecute her despite it being something that would have been prosecuted for other less powerful people.

              Was it as big a deal as the GOP made of it? No. But, it’s still a rule that everybody else has to follow or they get charged.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        12·
        1 year ago

        Wait… So you admit that she was grilled by people who had every intention of destroying her career, and that those people never brought criminal charges… But they should have?

        Do you know more than the people who spent way too much time investigating it? Why should she have been prosecuted?

    • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
      1·
      1 year ago

      Folks, is having a Gmail account the same as deleting emails off your own server after getting a subpoena, or do I not care about the truth as long as I can defend Democrats

  • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.eeEnglish
    21·
    1 year ago

    Anyone who mentions Hillary and her emails after signalgate and this fucking shit needs to have their ass whooped.

    • CrowbarSwingingIdiot@lemm.ee
      6·
      1 year ago

      This admin is such a bunch of amateurs. School kids in mock governments would take their jobs more seriously and do a better job.

    • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
      34·
      1 year ago

      Hilary managed her own server and wiped the contents after getting a subpoena. Unless I’m missing something major, these are very different things

  • merc@sh.itjust.works
    21·
    1 year ago

    Given that Google probably trains their LLMs based on the content of people’s Gmail inboxes, how long until a prompt convinces Gemini to spit out Waltz’s emails verbatim?

    Or, could use this profile:

    • Former military officers
    • Graduates of Virginia Military Academy
    • Married men in their early 50s
    • Men Living in Washington DC
    • Fathers of teenage daughters
    • …

    Then microtarget ads that will be shown only to him. I can guarantee that a guy this bad at OPSEC doesn’t know how to use an ad blocker.

    (And if you’re a North Korean hacking group, you make sure the ad has a malicious payload that gives you control over his computer.)