• MotoAsh@lemmy.worldEnglish
    732·
    11 months ago

    Keep in mind data recovery vs drive size. Getting past ~16TB drives, it starts to become a question of whether the rest would be able to survive a restore of a failed drive if any are going to have remotely similar endurance. Obviously, the answer is going to be “yes” most of the time, but at a certain point, there are deminishing returns on the cost of the drives to where even a one to one price increase in the HDD per size might not be worth it all the same.

    Kinda’ a moot point if you’re not going to raid them in any way for reliability, but worth a thought.

    I’ve described this terribly, but Level1tech on YT talks about it sometimes in reviews.

    • Cinner@lemmy.worldBEnglish
      33·
      10 months ago

      This is me when I’m trying to be helpful after a full day of coding and my 2nd dose of Adderall has worn off. props for still telling him a brief overview along with where to find the info

        • Cinner@lemmy.worldBEnglish
          3·
          10 months ago

          There’s nothing wrong with it at all. That’s why I gave them props for still giving all necessary info because search engines are a shitshow for things now. They just seemed like they were mentally drained but still trying to help I thought that was cool. Also possibly/probably projection on my part.

          I was mainly basing it off of the quick rundown no unnecessary info and them saying that they described it terribly. I was just relating to it yesterday after I got off work and was drained.

          • cali_ashOPEnglish
            5·
            10 months ago

            I was just relating to it yesterday after I got off work and was drained.

            Hopefully you’re filled now, I am! As a fellow developer, I totally got your comment.

            • Cinner@lemmy.worldBEnglish
              2·
              10 months ago

              I am once again full, friend! I’ll never think about ‘feeling drained’ the same again 😅

    • cali_ashOPEnglish
      78·
      11 months ago

      Yes, it was a chinese container ship. Resistance would have been futile.

        • Cinner@lemmy.worldBEnglish
          13·
          10 months ago

          for snuggling it’s not the being on the ship that’s the hard part, it’s what happens at the port before it’s loaded and after at the port it’s unloading at.

            • Cinner@lemmy.worldBEnglish
              2·
              10 months ago

              fsck it, I’m keeping it. It makes sense with the typo and without, just giving fully different meaning to the sentence 😅

  • Norgur@kbin.social
    35·
    11 months ago

    Sooo… Are you actually using the data that’s going on these or is this more of a hoarding situation?

    • cali_ashOPEnglish
      142·
      11 months ago

      What does “using” mean? It’s definitly a hoarding situation. I mostly store TV shows and movies. But I only watch a tiny fraction of them.

      It’s not hoarding … I’m actually archiving. Or something you tell yourself. Shut up, I don’t need a reason. I don’t have a Problem, leave me alone.

      • 7u5k3n@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16·
        10 months ago

        It’s not hoarding … I’m actually archiving. Or something you tell yourself. Shut up, I don’t need a reason. I don’t have a Problem, leave me alone.

        The meeting is on Tuesday nights at 5.

        Oh it’s not DA… (data anonymous) it’s the local sneakerNet for doing old school swaps.

        Being a snack!

      • Norgur@kbin.social
        101·
        10 months ago

        It’s okay, dear! Just breathe! You’ll be fine! Maybe there is some porn you’d like to watch among your data hoard? Violently masturbating might bring you down again, honey!

    • bruhduh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      11 months ago

      Probably personal archive of games/movies/porn and backups, I’d do this if i got this honestly, and i think most of us would do the same, slap some block based deduplication and zstd compression and enjoy

  • jj122@lemmings.worldEnglish
    24·
    11 months ago

    I just got 2 of these (x22 version) for my Jellyfin. Supposed to be here tomorrow! I don’t think I could drop $1k for that many.

    • Ramenator@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      11 months ago

      If I could actually get those for 1000$ I would do that. Just spent 260€ for a new 16tb one…

    • chimasterflex@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      10 months ago

      Same except 4 of them. I ended up buying from serverpartsdeals though. recertified for $210 each. Had a small hiccup on my first batch but they came in quick and made it right. Now all my useless data has a home

    • cali_ashOPEnglish
      4·
      10 months ago

      I don’t think I could drop $1k for that many.

      I wish I could have … storage is apprently way cheaper in the US.

    • cali_ashOPEnglish
      191·
      11 months ago

      The idea is going for raid5 so that should be around 100TB of storage, minus the OS and apps, etcs. But easily 80TB+ net storage.

      • BrownianMotion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        17·
        10 months ago

        With drives that size, you should be talking RAID6, 80TB storage and 40TB checksum.

        Rebuilds will take a long time, and with RAID6 you can at least suffer 2 drives failures and continue to operate fully.

        • cali_ashOPEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          I did go for SHR-2 (Synology’s take on raid 6) with 2 drive failure protection. And I’m considering getting a “hot spare” drive. My effective storage is just 70TB (still +30TB upgrade over my old setup). But redunancy sure is expensive.

          Also that’s 70 actual TB not what the HDD manufacture sells you. They sell you a 20 TB drive, but it’s actually 20 tebibyte … which is just 18.2 terrabyte.

      • zib@kbin.social
        13·
        11 months ago

        I use a 1tb ssd for the os/apps with my raid5 strictly for storage. Kinda nice if the os needs to be reinstalled or I want to migrate the raid cluster.

        • cali_ashOPEnglish
          1·
          11 months ago

          but that means you need to give up a bay slot for the system sdd, right?

          • zib@kbin.social
            5·
            10 months ago

            In my case, I use a PCI card with an m.2 slot for my OS drive. I lose a PCI slot, but I already had a few to spare.

          • Maximilious@kbin.social
            2·
            10 months ago

            That’s also a good option but I wouldn’t with 6 drivers personally. I have a 12 bay array with two pools of 6 each running raidz2. I’ve run raid 5 for a long time but have had one drive fail many times and always have mini heart attacks while I wait for the new drive to come in and the rebuild process to happen.

            • fxt_ryknow@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              10 months ago

              I do this for expansion. I can expand the pool three drives at a time instead of 6. But, I set it up knowing the risk with a single parity drive…and I’ve acounted for that with backups. 👍

    • cali_ashOPEnglish
      18·
      10 months ago

      I work at an IT company and we regularly supply hardware to clients. So I got these at B2B retail prices. My boss basically just handed me the bill the supplier issued to the company and said “you pay it”.

    • TheControlled@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Serverpartsdeals on eBay. I think that’s their name. Pretty sure they only ship to USA though. At least that’s what non-Americans on my favorite tracker always complains about.

  • 342345@feddit.deEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    There are oem drives out there which don’t have the 5year warranty. I would check the drives serial numbers at the seagate homepage.