• Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Ah yes, an opinion piece written by a notably not histrionic or atangonist little right wing radio commentator who became a US citizen in (checks notes) 2016, Jeff Kuhner.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Kuhner

    You should definitely read the articles and consider the source before you post then as fact.

    • mathemachristian [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Alright i didn’t have material about a conflict over a decade ago ready at hand, but broken clock and all that. The dude was right about what Obama’s action will lead to as we can see with the benefit of hindsight. Obamas failure to help Assad, but arm other extremists (al-Nusra) because they were fighting both ISIL and Assad and help them by drone bombing weddings, even though they had no real path for defeating both lead to ISIL becoming stronger and better armed. Thank god Assad prevailed I would say, but look at the dude currently head of state of syria. Which gives us the sad sad opportunity to see both, not just what happened due to Obamas I’m-playing-both-sides failing, but also what would have happened if he succeeded. (Edit: I replaced the wikipedia link with a link to an article by the grayzone)

      Syria is to Obama, what Libya is to the Clintons, what Ukraine is to the Bidens.

      And that still leaves my point about Obama failing to stop the genocide of palestinians and indigenous americans, even though he could have, completely unaddressed. But of course you would not focus on that, or the facts of Obamas foreign policy, but attack the source. Because you either know I’m right, or don’t know anything about Obamas foreign policy.

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        6 days ago

        Thank god Assad prevailed I would say

        Just lead with this next time and let people really know who you are.

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            6 days ago

            Good job using false choice to condition your support of Assad, the guy that was using to chemical weapons on his own people.

            And to think you bitch about a US President allowing weapons to be sold to someone doing a genocide, while you openly support someone who was actually commiting genocide. 11/10 mental gymnastics there.

            So, should the US be the world police or not?

            • mathemachristian [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              6 days ago

              false choice

              alright, lets ask the geopolitics understander which faction had a realistic view of defeating ISIL and governing Syria? My whole point is no, the US shouldn’t. They shouldn’t have been arming al-Nusrah lol

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                6 days ago

                So what should the US do about al-Nursrah? Since we’re not the world police?

                Also, pretty sure that openly supporting a genocidal dictator is against the rules of this community.

                Proselytization, support, or defense of authoritarianism is not welcome. This includes but is not limited to: imperialism, nationalism, genocide denial, ethnic or racial supremacy, fascism, Nazism, Marxism-Leninism, Maoism, etc.

                I would encourage you to delete, or clarify your support of Assad.

                Hypothetically, I should report you, per the rules as well…

                Block or ignore posts, comments, and users that irritate you in some way rather than engaging. Report if they are actually breaking community rules.

                …but I think in earnest that you’ve gone too far down a rabbit hole and are saying things you don’t genuinely believe or fully understand the implications of.

                I’m going to go ahead and follow other part of that rule and ignore you now. Frankly, it’s probably what is best for you at this point.

                • mathemachristian [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  And what should the yankee empire have done about al-nusrah? If you weren’t the world police? How about nothing?? Don’t arm al-qaeda offshoots? Like what??

                  Between al-nusrah, ISIL and assad, Assad is preferable, I don’t think there is anything controversial about that statement. You have absolutely no idea what’s going on however and are in no position to say what’s a rabbit hole and what isn’t. You just need to shield yourself from the fact that your hero Obama is a war criminal like the rest of them.

                  Because even if his support for Al-nusrah were justified, and please remember we are talking about an al-qaeda offshoot here, there still is the genocide of the palestinians and indigenous americans which you keep just not mentioning because you know they’re inexcusable.