She tries to explore the statistics where new generations feel that feminism is no longer about lifting up women but putting down men.
It is interesting to see that she mentions that women outperform men academically and in early earnings. She however fails to explore why that happens.
I can’t speak about your country and your culture - I can only speak about mine. I will be quoting women feminists (with links), but in Polish (I tried autotranslating them and they seem readable).
Here in Poland men are de jure (and de facto) discriminated against in all levels of education, e. g. https://www.rp.pl/opinie-polityczno-spoleczne/art43786261-jakub-chabik-dyskryminacja-pozytywna-plus-rownosc-selektywna-to-bunt-mezczyzn in early education: girls have now better average scores in language than boys and equal in math, but for their gender girls are offered extra points to qualify for “math excellence extracurricular programs”, as uni STEM only sees only ~40% of women. There is no similar program for uni bio or med, where men are only ~25%.
actually, if you think about it, you could argue there’s “positive discrimination” in favour of men. That is called male privilege. For example, getting paid more than women and (other) queer/minority peeps.
Another is being taken more seriously in discussions. Or getting CEO positions easier.
Not sure what you want to discuss. There’s also pretty privilege, tall privilege and rich privilege.
There is a difference between de facto (by custom) and de jure (by law) discrimination.
Idk about your country (so if you wanted to discuss via its lenses please tell me at least the name of it), but in Poland there is much much much less de jure discrimination against women than there is against men (as per linked articles in my previous comment).
The cases you’re mentioning are potentially examples of de facto discrimination against women.
For example, getting paid more than women and (other) queer/minority peeps.
This is potentially a de facto discrimination.
(“Potentially” because gender pay gap is critiqued by many scholars and its purely discriminatory origin is contested if not rejected already)
Talking about my country only, as this shit changes vastly between countries, Poland has one of the lowest (7%) average gender pay gaps in Europe (and depending on a sector not always favouring the men, which adds to the gender pay gap critique; source https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Gender_pay_gap_statistics#Gender_pay_gap_much_lower_for_young_employees ), has multiple existing pay equality programs and tools (I know of two, one of which is a FOSS for the companies to check if they do have gender pay gaps), as well as upcoming transparency pay laws.
Another is being taken more seriously in discussions. Or getting CEO positions easier
For all the readers who don’t know, this is called “authority gap” and is usually measured as percentage of women in positions of power (like members of Parliament or C-levels, boards of directors etc).
Another potential de facto discrimination. No comment here, as I never studied the topic and I literally can’t add to the discussion nor even know the stats for my country.
About 1/3 of Parliament members are women, that’s all I can tell ya.
(“Potential” because there is no study if women don’t win elections at 1/2 rate because of being women and thus discriminated against or because there’s just fewer women candidates)
Hot take - men are against de jure “positive discrimination” in favour of women because there’s no de jure “positive discrimination” in favour of men.
https://melissahogenboom.substack.com/p/feminism-has-gone-too-far
She tries to explore the statistics where new generations feel that feminism is no longer about lifting up women but putting down men.
It is interesting to see that she mentions that women outperform men academically and in early earnings. She however fails to explore why that happens.
I can’t speak about your country and your culture - I can only speak about mine. I will be quoting women feminists (with links), but in Polish (I tried autotranslating them and they seem readable).
Here in Poland men are de jure (and de facto) discriminated against in all levels of education, e. g. https://www.rp.pl/opinie-polityczno-spoleczne/art43786261-jakub-chabik-dyskryminacja-pozytywna-plus-rownosc-selektywna-to-bunt-mezczyzn in early education: girls have now better average scores in language than boys and equal in math, but for their gender girls are offered extra points to qualify for “math excellence extracurricular programs”, as uni STEM only sees only ~40% of women. There is no similar program for uni bio or med, where men are only ~25%.
Heck: https://krytykapolityczna.pl/kraj/wieczorkiewicz-istnieja-formy-dyskryminacji-mezczyzn-ze-wzgledu-na-plec-polemika-z-wojcikiem/ - she explores forms of de juro and de facto discrimination against men in Poland, lack of interest from progressive and leftist parties to even mention men discrimantion and issues (and even blaming men for them), and finishes the article saying that she sees the right-wing counterforce parties getting access to men because of all that.
So yeah - if you base your feminism at “When someone is accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”, then that feminism is bad.
Isn’t the default “positive descrimination” towards men?
Some people will loudly proclaim so, which makes it seem like a universal unimpeachable truth
actually, if you think about it, you could argue there’s “positive discrimination” in favour of men. That is called male privilege. For example, getting paid more than women and (other) queer/minority peeps.
Another is being taken more seriously in discussions. Or getting CEO positions easier.
Not sure what you want to discuss. There’s also pretty privilege, tall privilege and rich privilege.
There is a difference between de facto (by custom) and de jure (by law) discrimination.
Idk about your country (so if you wanted to discuss via its lenses please tell me at least the name of it), but in Poland there is much much much less de jure discrimination against women than there is against men (as per linked articles in my previous comment).
The cases you’re mentioning are potentially examples of de facto discrimination against women.
This is potentially a de facto discrimination.
(“Potentially” because gender pay gap is critiqued by many scholars and its purely discriminatory origin is contested if not rejected already)
Talking about my country only, as this shit changes vastly between countries, Poland has one of the lowest (7%) average gender pay gaps in Europe (and depending on a sector not always favouring the men, which adds to the gender pay gap critique; source https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Gender_pay_gap_statistics#Gender_pay_gap_much_lower_for_young_employees ), has multiple existing pay equality programs and tools (I know of two, one of which is a FOSS for the companies to check if they do have gender pay gaps), as well as upcoming transparency pay laws.
For all the readers who don’t know, this is called “authority gap” and is usually measured as percentage of women in positions of power (like members of Parliament or C-levels, boards of directors etc).
Another potential de facto discrimination. No comment here, as I never studied the topic and I literally can’t add to the discussion nor even know the stats for my country.
About 1/3 of Parliament members are women, that’s all I can tell ya.
(“Potential” because there is no study if women don’t win elections at 1/2 rate because of being women and thus discriminated against or because there’s just fewer women candidates)