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    8 days ago

    Or, vote for something other than going to the bad place?

    Someone offers you two pills, you don’t have to take either. You can make your own, and seek other options.

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      8 days ago

      Yeah, but if you say “I don’t care, I have absolutely no preference”, then when kids get blown up in Iran it becomes your fault.

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          I think voting Democrat would have prevented kids being blown up in Iran, and it would have prevented ICE from having as many employees throwing immigrants in concentration camps, and I think it would have prevented the genocide of trans people that’s going to start next year. And don’t call Me an idiot, please.

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        6 days ago

        Yeah. Don’t say that. Who’s advocating for that? Did you think I was advocating for that??

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          6 days ago

          Well, there’s this thing called voting literacy, and the thing is, if your voting literacy is poor, you can say things you don’t intend to say. So yes, you did say “I don’t care, I have absolutely no preference”. And it’s your responsibility to learn enough mathematics to be able to say what you mean. I’m not gonna treat you like a baby and find the intended meaning in what you say, you have to grow up and say what you mean.

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            5 days ago

            Slanderous misrepresentation. Did not say that.

            So implausible, it seems you’re just trolling. Or maybe have crossed wires, replying to the wrong thing? … Or maybe have some psyop programs running that you truly believe what you say, with your perception perverted by some kind of groupthink and the false dichotomy fallacies the programming produces? Or maybe narcissistic deflecting and blame shifting and trying to save face rather than entertain an idea and concede the logic and learn from it? Or… maybe you’re on to something sound that you’ve just yet to effectively convey? But then, even if that’s so, we’re back to projecting, with the peculiarly expressed accusation of failing to communicate effectively (~ with mathematics?). And the condescending gaslighting hypocrisy doesn’t help your case much either.

            If you can quote the relevant parts, I’m happy to hear out your explanation that refutes my claim I did not say that. Especially if you can do it without the inflamed ego toxicity. LOL.

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                That makes the plausibility of projecting even more curious.

                Also [that and the blog post posted 2 weeks before I said the thing] does not explain, nor refute, only further lending to my suspicions, like maybe something got misunderstood about some/all of what I said in:

                Or, vote for something other than going to the bad place?

                Someone offers you two pills, you don’t have to take either. You can make your own, and seek other options.

                to make it mean

                I don’t care, I have absolutely no preference

                that you’ve twice reasserted

                So yes, you did say “I don’t care, I have absolutely no preference”.

                you’re saying you don’t have a preference

                means I’m saying I don’t have a preference, without yet having demonstrated why… which is delightfully ironic from how that blog post starts…

                Wernicke’s Aphasia (pronounced ver-nick-ees) is a neurological disorder involving damage to the part of the brain that comprehends the meanings of words. Patients with Wernicke’s Aphasia communicate with perfect rhythm, pronunciation, and fluency, except that words in their speech don’t mean what the patient thinks they mean. If you haven’t heard of it before, you should absolutely look up a video of a person with this disorder talking, it’s very interesting.

                I bring up Wernicke’s Aphasia in the context of voting because I’m trying to come up with a good metaphor for what I mean, here. This idea of a person who miscommunicates in a way that is invisible to themself, but which utterly garbles their meaning. Maybe a better metaphor is those white people who get Chinese tattoos that don’t mean what they think they mean, but I can’t think of a quippy way to reference that. But the idea of losing something in translation is very much what I’d like to talk to you about today.

                and from my suspicions from

                Well, there’s this thing called voting literacy, and the thing is, if your voting literacy is poor, you can say things you don’t intend to say. So yes, you did say “I don’t care, I have absolutely no preference”. And it’s your responsibility to learn enough mathematics to be able to say what you mean. I’m not gonna treat you like a baby and find the intended meaning in what you say, you have to grow up and say what you mean.

                and the context of no explanation offered to hold to account.

                But I remain hopeful a clear simple (not time wasting) explanation can be given for such a simple thing that can be explained, rather than condescending self aggrandising hot air red-herring wild goose chase.

                How is

                Or, vote for something other than going to the bad place?

                Someone offers you two pills, you don’t have to take either. You can make your own, and seek other options.

                interpreted as saying

                I don’t care, I have absolutely no preference

                ?

                … Frankly a question made all the more needed to be re-asked since the blog post’s broadly making the same point I’m making with that statement, my comment in question is not falling foul of it, and certainly not saying "I don’t care, I have absolutely no preference”; all the more looking like it was not understood, and the reluctance to offer coherent illustration of how that’s been interpreted so, further lends to the suspicion of psychologically projecting, and succumbing to the psychology and philosophical communication fail mentioned in the piece about “voting aphasia” in that projection.

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                  4 days ago

                  You’ve been advocating for not voting for the Republicans or the Democrats, which according to the mathematics of FPTP, is saying you have no preference and you’re an apolitical, regardless of your intentions.