VOY s1e12 “Cathexis”

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    Things that hand phasers can do:

    1. Stun
    2. Kill
    3. Disintegrate
    4. Explode
    5. Sick lightshow that impresses everybody
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    my favorite example of “we can do this extraordinary thing and we will never talk about it again”:

    • starfleet can create copy of dead or lost people using transporter
    • seven is literally necromancer and can resurrect dead…
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        i think that one was about money, shooting the separation scene turned out to be more complicated and expensive than they thought…

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      • That alien transporter with a range of 40,000 light years (the spatial trajector) that just can’t work on Voyager because it has an incompatible power supply
      • Infinitely fast travel at warp 10 that comes with serious, but entirely curable side-effects
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        Infinitely fast travel at warp 10 that comes with serious, but entirely curable side-effects

        Janeway and Paris preferred to stay in the delta quadrant rather than explain their giant Yeerk babies.

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        It annoyed me so much that Discovery basically wrote off all the propulsion technologies that didn’t quite work in the 24th century, just so the spore drive could be special in the 32nd century.

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          I have much the same gripes about Voyager making the Warp 10 speed limit a universal hard limit, rather than something that the warp drive was simply not able to achieve.

          At least Discovery’s could still pulled them back out of the rug with them not having to wring every single piece of dilithium for all it’s worth.

          “If you go just a bit faster than the Voyager, the universe itself breaks, and all propulsion technologies are obsoleted past the threshold” is much harder to get around without something like Q shenanigans.

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      My favorite is the repair tool from S1 PIC, the one powered by imagination. Lets just create and forget a magic wand that commoditizes the entire engineering department 🙃

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        I’m going to be honest - the first season of PIC was so bad I tried to forget about pretty much everything but Laris. I am pleased to report that I successfully forgot everything about the imagination repair tool and still no longer recall it.

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          I’m glad I’ve almost completely forgotten the first two seasons of PIC.

          I’m glad they at least tried to make a good 3rd season… but I’d still rather forget it too.

          Heck, maybe I should just start considering Picard dead since Wolf 359. … No, no. That’s taking it too far. Just need to ignore the non-canon anti-fan non-trek noise.

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            I just can’t respect someone’s opinions on writing when they don’t know it’s not “cannon”.

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      If we’re counting Kelvinverse stuff, the plot twist in Star Trek Into Darkness in which magic villain blood turns out to be the universal cure for Actual Death also qualifies.

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      Oh how I aspire in writing my own Star Trek stories to both not do that, and explain away why it’s like that (basically: “forgot we could do that”).

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    Like Kira said, “… It’s a little more complicated, so it’s not as good a field weapon. Too many things can go wrong with it. I think you should stick with the Cardassian rifle. Smaller, easier to use, and if we get boarded I don’t want you to have to think too much about the weapon you’re using.”

    Maybe people in starfleet forget the features available in the pinch of the moment. (&/or writers “forget” for convenient writing devices).

    … Or maybe starfleet academy['s training] is not as great as the much lauded (but lacking merit (?)) “competence porn” selection bias that we see gives the impression of.

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      Phasers are super versatile but they need to be programmed. That’s not something you want to be doing on the battlefield - which is why the default function is “point and click to shoot”.

      And most of the time we see phasers used - aside from the occasional stone heating or vaporising - it’s in a battle situation where reaction time matters. Tuvok had a moment to set things up, but in most other situations, that moment might be deciding if you live or die.

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          Freedom fighting.

          I know even they call it terrorism, but, it’s not really using terror for political gain. So it doesn’t fit the definition.

          I always found that weird about TNG/DS9/VOY… the casual use of “terrorist”, right to self-identification. Casually.

          Like,

          what,

          they’re taking the term back? LOL.

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        Well, alas, the future liberator hero icon of Cardasia needed to kill her because… I forget why… He was in an uppity mood, wanted Dukat’s affection, didn’t like rebels plotting, didn’t like she was half bajoran, too much kannaar(sp?)… I don’t know why.

        Woulda been cool. Many adventures could have been had. Loads of planetside scouting & survival stuff…

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        Currently watching Scorpion here.

        So I surely must be too.

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          (And conceitedly enjoying how competent I am to have replied to that within a minute.)

          [Edit: Aaaaand then realising when I double check that… I was 3 seconds too slow, because I hesitated and added “surely”. Surely may be a fan, but not a performer.]

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          I eat scorpions. They are an aphormoadesiac, if you didn’t know. Don’t let them sting you there, though. That’s not how it works, but I’m not a biochemist. I’m an English teacher.