• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    Hello community, this thread is going in places a community shouldn’t go. Remember to hate the argument, not the user. There are also people that said things on the fence that seemed to be making up arguments or trying to start arguments. I temp banned you.

    I didn’t catch them all, feel free to report if it bugs you. I’ll take a look.

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    1 小时前

    I’ve had several women come into my apartment and make the exact same comments. Grown adults who are impressed by another adult just functioning are a red flag, regardless of gender.

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    Like yes, i want a mommy to take care of me but that and me appreciating your house is not related 💀

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    Had nice paintings on the wall, spotless place, no clutter, clean bed all before I got married. No paintings,dirty (not gross ) tons of clutter w/wife and kids.

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    My place looks like a laboratory. I’m still on the original primer on the walls. Blow me.

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          Any memories I have of cables strewn across the floor of my living space are memories of good times in my life.

          I still have cables on the floor. But now they are long enough that they go around the edges of the room behind furniture and stuff. These days a CAT8 25ft cable is like $10.

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    Generally true though. Society robs us of all joy on purpose. Can’t have shit as a man, because that looks kind of gay.

    I’m getting all the stuff society does not want me to.

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        If you have too much decorative stuff in your room, people start to suspect you.

        Luckily, what people think, means jack shit to me, as you can tell by all the dislikes I’m ignoring.

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          You said you can’t have “shit”, which generally means “can’t have anything”.

          You live some weird ass fucking fantasy world. Being called gay for having a rug is not common, at all.

          There are real societal toxic masculinity thing that affect men, we don’t need this ludicrous made up bullshit.

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      What robs us of joy is caring about other people’s expectations for us. We are free when we stop worrying about what people think.

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        Tough shit. I’m getting all the “gay” shinny shit, and there is nothing you can legally do about it.

        I’m getting so much useless vane shit, just to spite society.

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          shinny shit

          It’s funny because with two n’s in that word it just turns the word “shin” into an adjective.

          Is that what you’re describing? A male living space full of shitty shins?

          vane shit

          Okay now you’re talking about a directional spinny thing you can put up on top of your house that tells you which way the wind is blowing. And I guess it’s spewing shit or something. I dunno. You’re the one who said it.


          shiny adjective ˈshī-nē

          : having a smooth glossy surface

          : filled with light

          : lustrous


          vain adjective

          : having or showing undue or excessive pride in one’s appearance or achievements : conceited


          vane noun

          : a movable device attached to an elevated object (such as a spire) for showing the direction of the wind

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              Social media, at it’s core, is people communicating with each other. Effective communication requires using the correct words to convey the message you’re trying to send.

              Using poor spelling, grammar or punctuation risks people A) misunderstanding what you’re trying to say, or B) thinking that you’re ignorant or uneducated and that therefore your input is of no value.

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          Ehem… there’s a lot of places where they can legally do something about it… sadly. Agree on the sentiment, anyway.

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      19 小时前

      i’ve had women come over to my place and do this. and then tell me it made them uncomfortable because men are not supposed to be able to cook, clean, let alone decorate.

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        So what is their excuse?/ I know lots of women who can’t cook and don’t clean. Don’t know where this cooking thing came from are not most famous chefs male?

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          no, when they do that they are just ‘expressing a preference for a manly man’.

          and if you tell them how problematic (and self-defeating usually) their ideas are, they tell you how you just hate all women and you have no right to criticize their ‘preferences’ and clearly you are insecure and pathetic.

          this same technique is also used to justify rabid racism against non-white men all the time. It’s always amazed me how women hide behind the ‘patriarchy’ and their ‘oppression’ only to rapidly perpetuate the rapidly racist and sexist nonsense they happen to believe in. I’ve also been on some date with women of color who do this, it’s not like restricted to white women.

          What I will say is the women who do do this… are typically privileged and wealthy types whose main dispute with life is they are NOT privileged and wealthy enough… and that it’s an evil and oppressive society of awful men that is preventing them form making an extra 50-100K on their already 300K salary.

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        keep being you and i promise theres women out there to appreciate it

        fully retracted, your honor lol

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          the women who appreciate it are not attracted to me sexually. or they are already married. i have had plenty of female friends who admire my home and my cooking. but i’ve never been in a sexual relationship with a lady who saw it as a positive, only as a threat.

          the issue with dating that people really struggle to be honest about, is most of us have limited options in potential partners, and it’s either accept what’s available, or date nobody. i know exactly who would work for me to date, but sadly none of those women find me attractive, and the one who do find me attractive, are the ones who i have absolutely nothing in common with, and who think my lifestyle choices and values make me a closeted homosexual.

          and yeah i’d rather be alone than be in another relationship with someone who constantly makes jokes about how i’m secretly gay and i’m going to leave her for a man, or what a pussy I am for being human and being upset over events like the death of my parents. but that’s the type of woman who finds me attractive and wants to date me.

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            i have seen your comments about dating in the past and i gotta say you seem like the problem. some of the things you have said are straight up misogynist. sorry if i dont believe this is the norm

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              Right, it’s me that hates women, and it’s not you that’s sexist and making sexist generalizations based on a total lack of personal experience with men, which you do not regard as human beings, no doubt.

              you know who also tells me I hate all women? every shitty abusive girlfriend I have rejected or stood up to.

              and what’s funny, is the women i meet who weren’t that way, don’t tend to call me misogynist when I reject or refute them.

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                which you do not regard as human beings

                What a pathetic fuckin tactic. Starting to see like you’re exaggerating and much more of the problem than you’re willing to admit.

              • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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                As a man with successful and healthy relationships who has read a lot of your bullshit throughout a lot of these kinds of threads, you are 100% the problem person in your life and relationships.

                Stop blaming other people for your shitty behavior. You’re the one behind the wheel.

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                  you know nothing about me, how is your belief about me legitimate, by your own logic then?

                  all you really know is i said words you don’t like. you self-reported as never dating men, so I find it kind of ironic that you seem to think you know anything about being in relationships with them.

                  are you sure I hate women, or is it more that you just hate men, because you don’t see them as people, as you have no personal experience in intimate relationships with them?

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    “Yeah I don’t get it, I just don’t get invited to anything anymore” - this person, on occasion, probably

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    Maybe the dude was just… you know.

    Poor.

    Came from an environment that was usually a mess, chaotic, disordered, and he was genuienly impressed by how simple things, in order, can give a significant sense of safety and stability.

    Maybe he’d never seen that before, maybe he had no model of a tidy and peaceful living space.

    The same scenario could happen with anyone, of any sex or gender.

    Man, broad societal levels of narcissism are just off the fucking charts these days… its the literal opposite of solidarity, of empathy.

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      Or maybe he was just being nice? I can’t imagine being invited to friend’s new house and not giving compliments unless im like worried about them moving into an unsafe situation.

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        Sure, maybe he was being performatively praising when he didn’t actually care that much at all about the home’s decor itself, but wanted to affirm the resident’s decor choice regardless.

        Aka ‘being nice’.

        Maybe a million different possible things.

        Why do you imagine its a new house, like the resident just moved there?

        You could just… be going to someone’s home for the first time. Maybe they’ve lived there for years, maybe they just moved in, who knows?

        My point here is that there’s a lot of additional context required for your interpretation. Your interpretation also manufactures and then ascribes an intent.

        My interpretation only requires that men who were raised poor exist, and does not manufacture or ascribe an intent.

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      Growing up my house was always trashed. Parents with depression and full time jobs don’t leave much time and energy for cleaning up, and there’s only so much children without guidance can do.

      So once I had my own defined space, it was basically minimalist to expedite cleaning. I didn’t start getting more stuff, even clothes, until my partner moved in.

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        Me growing up, it wasn’t quite that bad for myself, but some of my neighbors were from… way more fucked up families.

        They had basically this exact same ‘Wow.’ moment, just… coming over, and seeing that… order was possible, things could be put basically back in place after use, etc.

        They had no previous concept of it.

        I remember going over to one of their houses once and literally stepping in dogshit, inside.

        They just… forgot to let the dog out, I guess. Regularly enough that this was annoying but basically normal.

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      if he was poor then he’s an asshole for having been poor.

      people don’t have empathy for people who are poor. just malice.

      I live an upper middle class lifestyle in my 40s. i haven’t been poor for 20+ years, and yet for some people, it’s considered something you can never live down, it’s an original sin from which you can’t ever be washed clean. you would be amazed at how openly hostile and violent people are towards those who are not as economically fortune as they are. rich and privileged people do not regard the poor and middle-class as human beings.

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      Oh hey!

      It’s that user.

      The user who types.

      They type like this.

      I don’t really know why.

      But they loves single sentence paragraphs.

      It’s not a problem.

      I just don’t get why they do it.

      Maybe they’re trying to build suspense?

      Idk it’s just so…

      …mysterious…